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cb200t resoration
« on: May 05, 2010, 11:09:17 AM »
1. it seems this would be easier than a 550 or 750 depending on condition. True?
2. Are any of the smaller cb's sought after more than others?
3. What is your thought about the cable driven caliper?

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 04:54:32 PM »
No need to restore a CB200T unless you really want to, as you can find low mileage minty examples in most major markets for 1000-1500. I don't think you could restore one for less.   

I have seen clean runners in my area for 500, so if your budget is in that range, there is another option, perhaps. I don't know what would be available from Honda other than service parts, so you need to find an intact, clean runner.

Parts on Ebay for CB200's are pretty reasonable, especially if your used to chasing CB750 parts!

I really like the CB200, they are a blast to ride. Not a 'fast' bike by any stretch, but they get out of their own way just fine. There is just something about 'little' bikes that makes them fun. You can ride them hard and pretend your Geoff Duke all day long and not get into trouble.
   
A friend has one, a weather beaten gold '75, and the front brake on his works great. So don't let that put you off.   
       
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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 05:38:45 PM »
I'm just about finished with mine! It's a gold 75 as well. Got it for free, and all it needed was a few odds and inn's. Got it as a mini project to take a break from the 750 build.

I don't see what people have against the cable driven caliper. Mine sat for 20 years, lubed everything up, and it works great. A welcome break from rebuilding front and rear calipers and masters on everything else i've had.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 05:41:55 PM »
Oh.. those air filters are super hard to find. Well, parts in general are hard to find. On the bright side, they aren't super expensive when you do find parts. Just keep your eyes open, and be patient. I think these 200's are still under the radar of bike collectors.

If you do get one, I've pretty much an entire bike worth of parts. Bought it just for the title and the side covers. It had a really mangled frame.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 06:51:04 PM »
I just picked up two for $100 a piece. One is more of a parts bike, bit I think both are just a carb cleaning away from running.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 08:06:24 PM »
I had one given to me in college.  Never got the title for it, but had fun!


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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 06:33:40 AM »
I had one given to me in college.  Never got the title for it, but had fun!



That picture is just totally awesome and convinced me to pursue the project!

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 07:25:03 AM »
I love mine, it's a gas to ride, a lot like a 175.
Many parts in fact interchange with 175.
The brake works just fine,  better than a drum.......

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« Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 07:29:17 AM by tbpmusic »
"If you can't fix it with a hammer, then it's an electrical problem"

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 09:50:29 AM »
Lookin' good there, Bill.

BTW, whatever became of your 200 after it went down?  I remember reading the story about it, but never any follow-up.

I refurbished my Mom's 200 and commuted for a while on it, but finally gave it back.  She was making noises about riding it again, but she never really has.  I think she just likes the IDEA of it being there in her garage...  :)


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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 09:59:00 AM »
Here is the one I am hoping to fix up. Tank needs to be cleaned, but the paint is in pretty good shape. Pipes are custom, but I have the originals. Other than that I didn't think it was too bad for $100.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2010, 09:59:48 AM »
Lookin' good there, Bill.

BTW, whatever became of your 200 after it went down?  I remember reading the story about it, but never any follow-up.

I refurbished my Mom's 200 and commuted for a while on it, but finally gave it back.  She was making noises about riding it again, but she never really has.  I think she just likes the IDEA of it being there in her garage...  :)


Fixed it - nothing major, she (wife) rode it into a nice soft ditch. Bent the headlight ears, broke the headlight. More damage to my brain than to the bike - she's banned from motorcycles forever now.......
No bent forks or anything.

Jeez, Kirk, where did you find those mufflers????
Is that the tank I gave you??
« Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 10:02:15 AM by tbpmusic »
"If you can't fix it with a hammer, then it's an electrical problem"

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 10:00:53 AM »
Here is the one I am hoping to fix up. Tank needs to be cleaned, but the paint is in pretty good shape. Pipes are custom, but I have the originals. Other than that I didn't think it was too bad for $100.

If it's titled, you done GOOD.......
"If you can't fix it with a hammer, then it's an electrical problem"

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 '71 CB450 Mutant/ '75 CB200/ '81 CM200/ '71 C70M

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 10:18:36 AM »
Hey, that one's a winner!  Ditto Bill - if it's got a title, you scored!


Bill, glad to hear all that.  For some reason, I thought the damage was much more severe. 

Those pipes on mine (Mom's) have been on it since the mid-80's.  I seem to remember that the OEM ones rusted thru and Dad went to Honda and bought 'em straight from a dealer.

No, her bike is all original, apart from tires and consumables and those pipes and the luggage rack (although the rack has been on it since 1974!)

The tank I got from you is still patiently waiting to be fitted to my SL100/150 cafe project, currently on the back-back burner.  :(


Rob, if you're wanting to clean the tank, I highly recommend the vinegar treatment.  It worked great for me.  Here's a link over to the HondaTwins site where I document that effort:  http://www.hondatwins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1376

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 10:25:21 AM »
Great thread!

Kirkn, your Mom's bike looks fabulous. She really needs to let you ride it more and maybe become it's permanent 'custodian'.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 10:03:50 AM »
Lots of beautiful 200's in here. Sure gives me a little motivation to finish mine!

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 12:01:35 PM »
Lots of beautiful 200's in here. Sure gives me a little motivation to finish mine!

Or to find one to play around with!  ;)
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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 02:24:23 PM »
Is the vinegar treatment safe to do without removimg the petcock? Seems like it would be fine.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 03:04:25 PM »
Well, acid reacts with the aluminum of the petcock, but vinegar is VERY weak.  Still, it's a strong enough acid to dissolve the iron oxide (rust), so I don't think I'd trust it to NOT harm the petcock.  Especially since the vinegar treatment takes a few days....

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 03:38:17 PM »
Good call. I'll give it try this weekend

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 04:44:48 PM »
I would remove the petcock before the acid wash. To plug the hole once the petcock is removed, I use a laboratory rubber stopper. The black hard rubber kind, used to stopper beakers or gradulated cylinders, etc 

You get them in packs from school lab supply places, and the tank wash won't hurt them.   
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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 07:40:57 AM »
The 200 has a really odd shaped petcock hole.. haven't figured out how i'm going to plug it to clean mine. Tried foam tape.. that lasted about 20 minutes.

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Re: cb200t resoration
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 09:16:28 AM »
When I did mine, (as linked above...) I used a plain piece of 1/8" bar stock about an inch or so wide and as long as the original petcock with a single hole for the screw and a home-made gasket.  Worked perfectly.