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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2010, 11:24:14 PM »
Man oh man.  Glad to hear you kept your cool and your bike.  Keys in a bike are a temptation to anybody and you a just plain LUCKY that he started it instead of rolled it away. 
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2010, 12:44:51 AM »
further to the fake vomit,you could put fake blood splatter and police crime scene tape around your bike.

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2010, 01:18:04 AM »
further to the fake vomit,you could put fake blood splatter and police crime scene tape around your bike.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

That would probably attract everyone in the neighbor hood.... :o

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2010, 02:45:00 AM »
further to the fake vomit,you could put fake blood splatter and police crime scene tape around your bike.

LOL, reminds me of many years ago, we came outta a nightclub and somebody had acrobatically climbed up onto my mates Superbike and taken a perfectly positioned dump on his seat.

 The effort that must have taken.... ???

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2010, 05:47:16 AM »
Given the cimcumstances, I think you acted well. You took control of the bike and evicted the would be theif. I keep a can of wasp spray at my bedside in case I'm ever a victim of a home invasion. Weird paranoia on my behalf. This stuff will shoot 20 feet, spray someone in the face and they are done. Your aim doesn't even need to be that good. Leave a can near your front door and spray that bastard if he ever comes back, IN THE FACE!

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2010, 08:14:23 AM »
Wow,good for you on keeping your bike and your wits.I dont know how I would have reacted,I have had 3 motorcycles stolen in the past and now I NEVER leave my bike outside overnite.My beautiful mint 77cb750 SS was taken the day I finished it,my fault really for leaving it on the sidewalk overnite on a main road in New Haven(or ghetto haven,those who know,know)Broke my heart bad,found it a couple of months later in the projects with a blown motor.Never again willI let someone take my moto.It feels like a part of you died.Or if your best dog passed,its a horrible feeling.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2010, 08:22:14 AM »
Well as a person with a handgun permit I would have him see the gun in my hand and ask what he is doing.  Hope that would make him think twice next time.  I take it with me everytime I go out the door. 

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2010, 08:46:36 AM »
my bike doesn't even have a key, it's always inside or within veiw. I always have my Springfield XD .45 on my person. I have the right to defend myself and my property.

"shall not be infringed upon"

I wont feel the least bit bad or guilty that someone got themsevles killed by getting on and touching my girl. I cant stop people from suicide. Thats what messing with my #$%* is

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2010, 08:51:50 AM »
I take it with me everytime I go out the door. 

Are you that paranoid or just live in a bad area?
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2010, 09:50:06 AM »
further to the fake vomit,you could put fake blood splatter and police crime scene tape around your bike.

LOL, reminds me of many years ago, we came outta a nightclub and somebody had acrobatically climbed up onto my mates Superbike and taken a perfectly positioned dump on his seat.

 The effort that must have taken.... ???

No kidding, I wouldn't know whether I would be pissed or impressed, probably both. :o
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #60 on: May 09, 2010, 10:43:23 AM »
Things worked out well.  Sounds like you did exactly the right thing.  I always try to live by the motto of saying as little as possible - make them wonder....


I always worry about my bike getting jacked.  I'm tempted to radically change the way it starts.  So that even if it did get jacked, it'd take a real puzzle-solver to figure it out.  At the bare minimum, it would require a thief to use a truck, or have to walk it off.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #61 on: May 09, 2010, 12:08:23 PM »
Ya, a lot of you guys have been talking about shooting the guy. Im angry with him for what he did but if it came down to it I would much rather let someone take my bike then kill them. Maybe its me being young a stupid but I think someone's life, no matter how much of a scumbag they are, is worth a lot more than my bike.

human life is worth more than property in any situation. stolen bikes can be recovered or replaced, death is forever. like diamonds.

I think too many people are too quick to reach for guns. especially here in oakland. that's what fists are for. or bats or bottles, etc. don't think we should outlaw them, just be reasonable.

and I think a lot of kids these days are getting the idea that a gun makes you tough, respected. how hard is it to pull a trigger? I think it makes you a scared pussy if it's just to avoid a real fight(not in a life and death sitch, though). I've been in dozens of fights, growing up as a punk rocker you kind of ask for it. sometimes you get your ass kicked, sometimes you teach someone a lesson. but it all heals up, you have some cool scars to impress the chics and everyone lives. I have a good friend that I met in a brawl. on opposite sides.

I'm a smaller guy and when I feel like someone has a big advantage because of size or whatnot, I reach for an ashtray or pool ball. that'll even things up and you don't have to do life in the rusty metal klink.

so I am not against violence. some people need a good whoopin. or guns. I may need one someday and it provides a balance of power against our overlords. just killin folks over property, though is pretty extreme.


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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2010, 01:32:25 PM »
Wow,good for you on keeping your bike and your wits.I dont know how I would have reacted,I have had 3 motorcycles stolen in the past and now I NEVER leave my bike outside overnite.My beautiful mint 77cb750 SS was taken the day I finished it,my fault really for leaving it on the sidewalk overnite on a main road in New Haven(or ghetto haven,those who know,know)Broke my heart bad,found it a couple of months later in the projects with a blown motor.Never again willI let someone take my moto.It feels like a part of you died.Or if your best dog passed,its a horrible feeling.

i lived on Blake street, right off of whaley around the corner from the Pegnataros supermarket. born and raised in windsor but i lived in new haven for a bit too. back in the 80's when i lived there it still wasnt too bad, except for when the bar around the corner closed at 2am.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2010, 01:33:43 PM »
Well as a person with a handgun permit I would have him see the gun in my hand and ask what he is doing.  Hope that would make him think twice next time.  I take it with me everytime I go out the door. 

i would also be racking a round into the chamber as i was going out the door. scared the living #$%* out of the mexican kid trying to get into my mustang a few years back............literally.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2010, 02:43:47 PM »
Ya, a lot of you guys have been talking about shooting the guy. Im angry with him for what he did but if it came down to it I would much rather let someone take my bike then kill them. Maybe its me being young a stupid but I think someone's life, no matter how much of a scumbag they are, is worth a lot more than my bike.

human life is worth more than property in any situation. stolen bikes can be recovered or replaced, death is forever. like diamonds.

I think too many people are too quick to reach for guns. especially here in oakland. that's what fists are for. or bats or bottles, etc. don't think we should outlaw them, just be reasonable.

and I think a lot of kids these days are getting the idea that a gun makes you tough, respected. how hard is it to pull a trigger? I think it makes you a scared pussy if it's just to avoid a real fight(not in a life and death sitch, though). I've been in dozens of fights, growing up as a punk rocker you kind of ask for it. sometimes you get your ass kicked, sometimes you teach someone a lesson. but it all heals up, you have some cool scars to impress the chics and everyone lives. I have a good friend that I met in a brawl. on opposite sides.

I'm a smaller guy and when I feel like someone has a big advantage because of size or whatnot, I reach for an ashtray or pool ball. that'll even things up and you don't have to do life in the rusty metal klink.

so I am not against violence. some people need a good whoopin. or guns. I may need one someday and it provides a balance of power against our overlords. just killin folks over property, though is pretty extreme.



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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #65 on: May 09, 2010, 08:43:35 PM »
"I have the right to defend myself and my property."

Not really.  You have no "right" to defend your property.  Your property cannot believe it is in critical danger therefore you have no "right" to either assualt someone or worse to "save" your property.  I think it's funny that so many of you think he should have beat this guy up.  Really.  That would have ensured someone called the cops and you may have been charged with assault.  If you initiated it you are committing assault, no matter what he is doing to your property.  I think he handled the situation with calm and maturity.  A gun or a bat would only ensure trouble for you.  Your best weapon in this situation would be a cell phone with a camera.  You did the right thing.  My .02.

As a side note; does anyone else get the impression this guy was just messing with you.  When you appeared at the door all he had to do was pull the clutch, click into first and go.  That would have taken under a second.  Then he just walked away.  Why didn't he run?  It almost sounds like someone who gets off on confrontation.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2010, 08:48:57 PM »
I'm jealous of the guys in florida  :D

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2010, 12:24:53 AM »
yeah it sounds like he was goading you into a fight or something?or just a wierdo ?or both?ide expect to get a punch in the face if i sat on a bike of someone i didnt know,i popped into the guy that painted my tank a little while ago and his mate had a 1000cc 30s vincent vee twin,the mighty of the mighty ones,all original,engines never been opened,it still does 100 mph,i asked if i could sit on it,yeah sure,he explained how the wheels interchange front to rear and has an adjustable gear lever etc,if i had of asked ill bet hed have let me ride it,you cant shoot someone for touching your stuff,but a smack in the chops should be legal,you gotta watch the return flack though ,you did right by thinking twice.,just be extra carefull,ive taken to parking my old holden at work off the street now as tilt tray trucks love old classics,you see a few grubby ones with dodgy dudes and no signwriting cruising around,no one would ask questions of the heavies as its picked up and taken away alarm sounding.

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2010, 01:37:10 AM »
Haha I wish I could take all the praise for "thinking twice" but in all honesty I bolted to the door thinking it was my roommate. When I swung the door open and saw the guy sitting there the only thing I thought about was the six months of rebuilding the engine, the 18 times I took off my carbs and put them back on, 5 different stator/field coils, 3 different rectifiers, and the weeks of banging my head against a door.

Since the kickstand was up Im pretty sure he was planning on stealing the bike. When I opened the door Im sure he was just as shocked as I was. He probably knew every bike has a different clutch and probably all of these things added up to him just not taking off.

Situations like these always make me reflect on my own morality. Im sure most of you can agree with me that killing someone over a motorcycle or over any material possession is ridiculous. A persons life, no matter how sorry they are isn't worth any amount of money.

But is assaulting someone justified? I've always thought that you get out of society what you put into it. If you go around doing good deeds and making people happy, then those people in turn will be happier and more inclined to helping and being kind to others. If you go around beating up people and mistreating your neighbors then they will be scarred and more incline to do wrong to others.

A good example would be me coming to these forums and getting a great welcome and tons of help. After I sorted through a lot of my bike's problems I've started helping others. One good deed goes a long way.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2010, 01:41:35 AM »
Karma. And paying it foreward! ;)
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2010, 02:24:30 AM »
if you want to do a real good deed ,track this guy down and give him your bike.

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2010, 06:27:35 AM »
it is a fine line between doing and being a good person and being a victim. Today in the US due to a lot of societal pressures like political correctness and apologizing for every wrong that has occurred in the past, it seems that line is blurred to the point that most people think it is expected of them to behave as if it is right to be a victim. WRONG, there are bad people in this world that feed off the good and they need to be stopped. It is up to each individual and their moral position, as to how they will do that. I am a strong believer in my right to protect myself my family and my property to the best of my ability, by whatever means are available, but this does not mean that I do not love my neighbors as I love myself. We are all, after all, members of the human race and will eventually experience the same end. It is just that some of us need to be reminded of these truths from time to time.

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2010, 06:54:01 AM »
what ever happed to the days when you could kick the #$%* out of someone if they eff'd up!!??!?  you know, playground brawls and the like.  once its done, its done. lesson learned.

Today, if you beat him up, he probably would have sued you for setting him up (Key in bike, ready to ride...etc)  and wiped you clean w/ legal fees....

this sucks.

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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2010, 07:04:37 AM »
Why does this always go straight to "shoot the f*%&er"???
In Toronto it's probably similar to any city. Some areas you can leave your bike (bicycle!) leaned in front of a store while you buy some smokes or bread and it will almost always still be there when you come out. Other areas the odds are reversed. Some parts of town you can chain it to a street lamp post with 17 chains plus a rabid rottweiler leashed to it... and in 30 seconds the bike and lamp pole are gone and the dog's wagging his tail happily.
You left your bike with the key in it on your front walk. Some doofus was playing with it. You're a lucky bugger, you still have the bike and it isn't damaged.
I've had cars broken into several times, many bicycles stolen, been pickpocketed...
All partly my fault. There are thieves out there, no point in pretending otherwise. I have to do my part to avoid being their prey. I try to park the motorcycle where I can see it from wherever I am going, try to park in a well travelled well lit spot preferably with other bikes (other probably better targets for thieves and more motorcyclists around - we generally would call police or otherwise intervene if we see someone doing suspicious stuff to another bike). I lock the steering stem. I do not leave the key in the bike. I do leave it in the driveway at home during daylight hours sometimes but always with the steering locked and key in my pocket. I still know that if a real bike thief wants it, it will be gone. I had a friend put his Harley beside his back door and bedroom window (open) with it chained (NYC type lock and tempered chain) to a rebar loop in poured concrete behind a locked gate in a 6 foot chain link fence filled with plastic privacy strips. It was not there one morning.
Professional bike thieves don't want our bikes as a rule. They want squid bikes and Harleys. There's a huge market in North America and worldwide for their parts and a good overseas market for the complete bikes.
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Re: Someone Just tried To Jack my Bike
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2010, 10:31:09 AM »
kinda off topic, but in Oakland people wait in dark spots with a bat waiting for someone to ride by on a bicycle. then they jump out, smack em off the bike and ride it away. it has happened to 3 people I know of.

also crack heads have been ruining moto engines trying to break spark plugs out of them because you can use them as a crack pipe.

while living in west oakland I found a cigarette but in my oil filter when changing the oil. someone had put their filthy butt out in my oil tank. my truck was stolen, windows broken and all tools stolen at different times after moving here.

if that's not bad enough the police are their own gang in west o and they are worse than the criminals because no one stops them. the cop who used to be in charge lives in mexico now like a kingpin, rich as hell from drugs and prostitution. I had my truck totalled by a cop while I was stopped at a light, not moving. there were lots of local witnesses but everyone's afraid of the cops and the consequences of being a witness against one. 6 mos. of trying to get my $ for my truck, they finally told me to drop it, that they now had witnesses saying it was my fault and I would never get a dime. and if I pushed it they would make it my fault and I would be fully liable. people in that neighborhood live in fear of police and thieves. and calling the cops never solves anything.

if you really hate crime, you should hate poverty, ghettos and prisons. lack of opportunities and no equal treatment under the law for poor people just make these problems worse, exponentially. sometimes kids who grow up in good neighborhoods with good social structures around them go bad, a little for fun. but kids who grow up in ghettos in situations like this are bound to turn out rotten. then we send them to prison where they learn to become total savages.

and we think this is justice, sending someone off to a big building where they will be raped and victimized unless they become savages themselves. what kind of civilization thinks it's righteous to send a man off to be raped? but you hear it all the time, like he's gonna get what he deserves by some big mean mutha... yeah, that's justice.

rampant crime has always existed in situations where people have no other options(ghettos and the like). keep building prisons, keep hiring cops and guards is our solution. 'they don't need jobs, they need a crack in the head'.

no, opportunities are what is needed. no one should have to grow up in this situation. and we can not expect everyone to just 'pull themselves up by their bootstraps', what about their families still there in the mud? and what bootstraps? they have nothing.

I think that is the real violence being perpetrated, on a large scale, against a whole segment of the population. I've lived in the suburbs, the city and the ghetto, all over the country and I've lived in a jail cell. some people have so much more than they could ever need, and others have nothing. this is where social inequality starts and the breeding ground for our problems. people with good lives and something to protect don't behave like savages. that doesn't mean we just divvy up the goods amongst everyone, it means we allow people to at least have a chance of success. good schools everywhere, not just in good neighborhoods. and equal treatment under the law. poor people do not have the same chance in the justice system as rich ones, we all know this yet accept it as right. it is certainly not.

the 1st law code, the code of Hammurabi had one law for nobles, another for commoners and so on. it has been this way ever since and still is. Beccaria wrote crimes and punishments in the 17th or 18th century and since people have agreed that all should have equal treatment under the law, yet it hasn't happened yet. you have as good a chance as the lawyer you can afford. now, instead of an aristocracy we have an oligarchy. the rich rule and prosper at the expense of the poor. and hand their wealth on to their children, what's the diff?

anyways, in my book fist fights are just blowin off steam, perfectly natural. nothing compared to the real hurt inflicted on our society by the institutions intended to keep some on top and others beneath their heels.

sorry, I get carried away sometimes. I know this is a moto forum but I needed to vent a little.