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Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« on: June 21, 2010, 05:09:26 AM »
I'm in the process of a ground up build. The frame is completely pulled apart and the motor about half way so. Before I get the frame painted I've got to decide what to do with the cafe seat part of the build. I know lots of guys chop the rear end a bit, add a support strut, and then hide the electronics under the bump. Anyone have any ideas on how to have a cafe seat with hidden electrics that can ALSO switch to a regular seat easily? Not an easy task, to be sure. Maybe a regular seat with no padding for the passenger? Brainstorming session...
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 07:14:57 AM »
whats the bike? are you keeping the rear fender on? some cafe seats look good with the rear fender still on, that ways its less modification so you can put the normal one back on. if you do keep the rear fender, depending on the bike, you might want to get a smaller tail light. the later 70's ones are far to big to look good with a cafe seat. i know this is all obvious stuff but thats my two cents.
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 11:04:07 AM »
whats the bike? are you keeping the rear fender on? some cafe seats look good with the rear fender still on, that ways its less modification so you can put the normal one back on. if you do keep the rear fender, depending on the bike, you might want to get a smaller tail light. the later 70's ones are far to big to look good with a cafe seat. i know this is all obvious stuff but thats my two cents.

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Definitely going to lose the big tail like and go with something smaller. I also plan on doing some funky turn signals, maybe something that hides under the seat or just a smaller style. Undecided about the fender, I need to do some more digging, but I think less fender is better, if any at all. Are there laws about bike fenders, or is just to keep the mud off your duff?
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 11:31:27 AM »
in new hampshire you have to have "fenders" but you can get away with having next to nothing for fenders. i dont know about VA
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2010, 12:41:46 PM »
I am doing both,I have a mint original seat,a cafe seat and a ripped original seat that I am bringing to an upholsterer to redo into a guliari style seat,ok thats thrice not twice.I will have two full sets of body work,original paint on one and custom on the cafe set.
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 04:38:26 PM »
no fender issues here(va).
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 04:58:48 AM »
Thanks, duster. I'll probably go with as minimal fender as possible.
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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 06:39:43 AM »
I've always thought it would look slick to mount the seat on the bike, and then trace around it with a magic marker.  Then take the seat off, and trim the fender to match.  Then just file and bevel the edge on the cut line, sandblast and paint it gloss black.  Still functions, but blends in with the bike and LOOKS like no fender from a distance!

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Re: Cafe seat, standard seat, or both? Brainstorming ITT
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 09:49:32 AM »
I'm building a seat pan for a customer, and I think you might like the method.  Considering you are going to reupholster your seat pan anyway, my method won't cost much more at all.

1) Cut a piece of wood (1" x 12" x 2') and trim to create the outer profile you want for the seat
2) Weld a pan on the bottom of the rear frame rails to mount electronics and the battery
3) Add additional wood layers in the rear to provide room for a dry-cell battery to lay on its side on the electronics pan and still clear the bottom of the seat
4) Lay your fiberglass over the wooden form and use it as your base instead of the stock pan

As long as you do not raise the rear section too much, you will have enough space for a passenger.  The seat could look mostly stock, or could be sculpted as you deem fit.  The benefit is that the battery and electronics can fit under a stock-ish looking seat and still clean up your triangle.

I'm considering a battery similar to this: http://www.trojanbattery.com/Products/documents/RE_ProductSheet_000.pdf  It is a dry cell that can be laid on its side, so the profile will easily fit under your seat.

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