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Offline mgbgt89

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Cop shoots biker.
« on: May 13, 2010, 08:02:35 PM »
Not for the faint of heart. This is despicable imo. Seems like two guys floor it away from a stop sign with a cop right behind them. The cop flips his lights on, one guy about dumps it not even a quarter mile down the road, the other stops and waits on his bike. The one on his bike gets shot in the back by the cop.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7433661

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Re: Cop shoots biker.
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 08:15:20 PM »
wow. Geez. How can that cop even argue that was justified?
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 08:52:01 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 08:56:53 PM »
uh....wow! I tend to be overly empathetic to cops but I can't do it in this case!

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 12:43:17 AM »
Dark night, two bikies, (as opposed to bikers), car chase, fight or flight, adrenalin flowing, safety off......not sure.
We've had 7 cops killed in NZ last few years, 3 shot by drugged up crims, they never know who they are pulling over.
I always tell my cop son that "he comes home after his shift whatever else happens" the benefit of the doubt is nice but......hard call, glad I don't have to carry a weapon.  :-\

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 06:38:30 AM »

Guys, there was recent post here showing british police seemingly making hard going of stopping a somewhat uncooperative driver of a white 2-door something.

There were many comments about how quickly this behaviour would have been met with gunfire, with questioning why british coppers don't carry guns.

This video is a good example of why they don't.

The US gun culture is one that both puzzles and intrigues the rest of the western world.


Here in Oz Mr. Plod has begun carrying hand guns (Glocks, S&W) in the last 10-15 years (with state-to-state variations).

I find it quite unnerving standing beside Plod in McDonalds to see the handgun on his/her belt.

In general we (and the Brits) don't have a gun culture that extends past what is needed on the farm or for target shooting clubs.

Yes - there was the occasional mental who could lay his hands on a gun and shoot his in-laws, but that was about it.

Bank robbers and other villians knew they didn't have to defend themselves too hard from the local coppers and things usually ended after a gentlemanly car chase or a few ealy morning raids. Mostly.

Bit-by-bit we're adopting the attitude that cops chasing a stolen car is not worth the risk of death for other ppl on the road (we have other ways), nor is it worth surrounding an armoured payroll truck with guards carrying pump-action shotguns.

In the big scheme of things, if it takes a few months to catch up then what does it matter?


A few years ago I had a friend visiting from Brownstown, Indiana. (A crime-ridden metropolis ...)

After a week or so she asked: "Where are all the cruisers?".

Me: "What are cruisers?".

Her: "Black and Whites. Cop cars".

Me: "What for?". Puzzled.

Here, we might see a police car once or twice in a week on a main road. Can't remember the last time in my neighbourhood.

She could not comprehend this.

What can I say?

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Re: Cop shoots biker.
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 08:20:46 AM »

Guys, there was recent post here showing british police seemingly making hard going of stopping a somewhat uncooperative driver of a white 2-door something.

There were many comments about how quickly this behaviour would have been met with gunfire, with questioning why british coppers don't carry guns.

This video is a good example of why they don't.

The US gun culture is one that both puzzles and intrigues the rest of the western world.


Here in Oz Mr. Plod has begun carrying hand guns (Glocks, S&W) in the last 10-15 years (with state-to-state variations).

I find it quite unnerving standing beside Plod in McDonalds to see the handgun on his/her belt.

In general we (and the Brits) don't have a gun culture that extends past what is needed on the farm or for target shooting clubs.

Yes - there was the occasional mental who could lay his hands on a gun and shoot his in-laws, but that was about it.

Bank robbers and other villians knew they didn't have to defend themselves too hard from the local coppers and things usually ended after a gentlemanly car chase or a few ealy morning raids. Mostly.

Bit-by-bit we're adopting the attitude that cops chasing a stolen car is not worth the risk of death for other ppl on the road (we have other ways), nor is it worth surrounding an armoured payroll truck with guards carrying pump-action shotguns.

In the big scheme of things, if it takes a few months to catch up then what does it matter?


A few years ago I had a friend visiting from Brownstown, Indiana. (A crime-ridden metropolis ...)

After a week or so she asked: "Where are all the cruisers?".

Me: "What are cruisers?".

Her: "Black and Whites. Cop cars".

Me: "What for?". Puzzled.

Here, we might see a police car once or twice in a week on a main road. Can't remember the last time in my neighbourhood.

She could not comprehend this.

What can I say?

Something must be working.



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We feel perfectly comfortable with  our Cops carrying guns. I am not fond of the automatic weapons I am seeing after 9/11.
That Cop was wrong and can be Federally sued for Civil Rights Violation. His career is over as of then.
As for the gun culture look here:
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Re: Cop shoots biker.
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 10:03:05 AM »
Wow, that was pretty scary. In my humble opinion the cop will get off with a slap on the wrist, paid administrative leave and the story will fade into oblivion.  Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, I hope I'm wrong anyway.
 I don't have the highest opinion of many of the boys in blue, one officer is a friend of mine and he is a cool dude, a regular joe just doing his job and playing in a band at night. I know a few others that just think they are gods gift to mankind and are really cocky, I guess it takes all kinds.

 I'll keep this video in my mind the next time I see blue lights in my mirrors. 
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Re: Cop shoots biker.
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 10:10:31 AM »
Wow, wtf?
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 11:35:02 AM »
UNREAL, What in the world was that cop thinking?? I didn't see no gun in the video except the offices. THAT'S JUST COLD, They need to put him in jail and make sure he never can return to a police force again, that's alomost like attempted murder to me shooting an unarmed man when all he needed was a ticket. Cops these days think they know it all. I PRAY they find him GUILTY!!
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 12:57:40 PM »
I wonder if these guys had mirrors.. Kinda looked like they just got into a drag race and didn't realize there was a cruiser behind them. That guy obviously gave up after he realized he had no chance of getting away. Hands off the bars to me signaled he wasn't going to take off once the cop got out of his car. Putting them on his knee probably wasn't the smartest choice. He wasn't even facing the cop like he was going to take aim and shoot.

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Re: Cop shoots biker.
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 03:18:19 PM »
the cops head should roll, the city should be sued shatless.

I'm of the Hunter S. Thompson opinion. Cops should not have guns. The rest of us should.

Not to change the thread. Hunter changed the whole attitude of Aspen police just by running.
His to be under sheriff who's name I forget then won 4 years later. He had the police in aspen stop
wearing military type outfits (you know, looking like the village people) and also disarmed them for a while.
The whole attitude was changed in the force to one of service. For instance, if you were publicly drunk you
were given a ride home. He replace his force with men who did not exhibit confrontation attitudes and
were there to help people. He was sheriff 8 years till he decided to retire. He was replace by his man.
The attitude continues to this day.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 04:16:04 PM »
While the cop's judgement in this particular case is questionable (probably why he will get off, all that proof of guilt stuff) I deal at the prison with the scum my cop son rounds up off the street.
It's hard for Police to switch from busting down meth lab doors where cut down shotguns are the weapon of choice to helping old ladies across the street.
They go from chasing bank robbers to dragging families from burning cars, stopping dumbarse gang members from killing each other (though why they bother has always eluded me) to knocking on doors to inform parents that their child has just been scrapped off the road in his way too fast turboed Nissan.
I get in a fight at work maybe once a month, he works in a very bad area and is subdueing drunk/drugged violent people every night.
He doesn't like carrying guns that much although he is marksman rated, something to do with the fact that losing your weapon in a ground fight may get it turned on you, that plus the NZ Police insistance on hiring pretty young blonde females weighing 50 kilos dripping wet, how long do you think they are gonna keep their weapon in a fight. :D
Guess I'm just too affected by my close proximity to the problem but I'd hate to make some of those split second "does he have a weapon or not" judgement calls.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2010, 05:03:17 PM »
Another sawed off little runt! That mindless piece of crap ought to be dismembered! Makes my blood boil. What kind of training did that sawed off little runt have that made him think it is necessary to shoot anyone in the back? 
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2010, 05:21:48 PM »

Guys, there was recent post here showing british police seemingly making hard going of stopping a somewhat uncooperative driver of a white 2-door something.

There were many comments about how quickly this behaviour would have been met with gunfire, with questioning why british coppers don't carry guns.

This video is a good example of why they don't.

The US gun culture is one that both puzzles and intrigues the rest of the western world.


Here in Oz Mr. Plod has begun carrying hand guns (Glocks, S&W) in the last 10-15 years (with state-to-state variations).

I find it quite unnerving standing beside Plod in McDonalds to see the handgun on his/her belt.

In general we (and the Brits) don't have a gun culture that extends past what is needed on the farm or for target shooting clubs.

Yes - there was the occasional mental who could lay his hands on a gun and shoot his in-laws, but that was about it.

Bank robbers and other villians knew they didn't have to defend themselves too hard from the local coppers and things usually ended after a gentlemanly car chase or a few ealy morning raids. Mostly.

Bit-by-bit we're adopting the attitude that cops chasing a stolen car is not worth the risk of death for other ppl on the road (we have other ways), nor is it worth surrounding an armoured payroll truck with guards carrying pump-action shotguns.

In the big scheme of things, if it takes a few months to catch up then what does it matter?


A few years ago I had a friend visiting from Brownstown, Indiana. (A crime-ridden metropolis ...)

After a week or so she asked: "Where are all the cruisers?".

Me: "What are cruisers?".

Her: "Black and Whites. Cop cars".

Me: "What for?". Puzzled.

Here, we might see a police car once or twice in a week on a main road. Can't remember the last time in my neighbourhood.

She could not comprehend this.

What can I say?

Something must be working.



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Brownstown, Indiana? Small world. I have a friend with some hunting ground near brownstown. I don't know about the cops in brownstown.. I just see them sitting on US 50 catching speeders, or hanging out at the gas station. Don't know how much crime fighting there is to do in brownstown.

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Re: Cop shoots biker.
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 05:55:56 PM »
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I have also noticed and dislike the move to cops wearing military gear.  What's wrong with a standard police uniform?  We're living more and more in a "police state" every day.  It's sad to say, but most of my interactions with police have been negative - in GA, Chicago and the Virgin Islands.  While working for the federal government in high crime areas, I was racially profiled MANY times and hassled for being the only white guy in a black neighborhood.  They wouldn't even back down when shown ID and valid reason for being at the address.  I'll be honest, I fear the police more than the criminals. 
The one positive interaction was when I was the victim of an armed robbery and my truck was stolen in college.  They did a great job, arresting and convicting the robbers.  My truck was returned (slightly damaged).