« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?  (Read 2112 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,930
  • Bought her new 4/75
What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« on: May 25, 2010, 06:01:10 PM »
My Chilton's has a much better picture than my Honda Service Manual and it says to remove the stopper pin to remove the shaft. Well, that bad boy split stopper pin seems to have been pressed in. The picture shows the guy just using needle nose pliers. I DON'T THINK SO! What's the trick here? What am I missing? On the other hand do you guys think it would be fine to leave the kick start mechanism in the case half when it goes to the 400 degree powder coat oven?

Jerry 
Logged
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 06:36:35 PM »
There are some threads on this. I removed a couple relatively recently. Others will chime in for sure. IIRC, grab the pin with a vice grip, in a manner that will close the gap in the pin a bit. Then slip a lever, screwdriver or tire iron under the vice grip to pry up. Wiggle the vice grip while prying up gently and it will come right out. Move the VG down to get a better grip, and to close the pin a little with each rise.

PS: for powder coating you could probably leave it in, if the PC tech is OK with that.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 06:38:30 PM by MCRider »
Logged
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline I Zombie

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 245
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 07:16:55 AM »
That's pretty much the best way I've found
Logged
78 CB750K

Offline markb

  • When I finish my current project I might be a
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,615
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 07:50:10 AM »
I use a side cutter (wire cutter).  Grab on to the pin as low as you can and pivot the pliers to pull up on the pin.  Takes a couple of regrabs on the pin and leaves some marks that can be dressed off with a file but they come right out.
Mark
Logged
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,930
  • Bought her new 4/75
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 05:24:28 PM »
Good advise guys. I played with the vise grips but couldn't get good enough grip to do any good. I was afraid I'd marr the mating surface. I just dropped off the case half at the machine shop to have them remove one of the 6mm bolts that snapped below the mating surface and asked him to have a go at that too. If he doesn't get that accomplished (forgetful and slow plus he prefers big paying car engine jobs) I'll talk to the coater about leaving it in and go from there.
Logged
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

Offline mick7504

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,740
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 07:04:39 AM »
A good pair of side cutters gets 'em out Jerry as markb mentioned.
Once they start moving out you've got 'em by the short & curlys.  ;D
Mick
Logged
If I was you
I'd be worried about me.

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2010, 08:18:51 AM »
How are you going to keep the case mating suface clean, if you powdercoat them.. ???
Logged
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline sangyo soichiro

  • Tuck
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,167
  • ☢ the atomic playboy ☠
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 08:31:55 AM »
I had trouble with this pin also.  I never did get it out, and it's still in the case as I type. 
Logged
1974 CB 750
1972 CB 750 http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,57974.0.html
1971 CL 350 Scrambler
1966 Black Bomber
Too many others to name…
My cross country trip: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,138625.0.html

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2010, 08:38:26 AM »
Quote from: 754 on May 28, 2010, 08:18:51 AM
How are you going to keep the case mating suface clean, if you powdercoat them.. ???
The PC shop here has done hundreds, mostly Harleys. I showed him mine, he said no problem, they bolt them together mask off the sides and go.
Logged
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,930
  • Bought her new 4/75
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2010, 09:21:05 AM »
Same way as if you painted - tape or mate
Logged
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

Offline SKTP

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,794
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 10:10:57 AM »
What's a case powder coating run (ballpark)? $200ish or does the taping and prep bump that number way up?
Logged
1978k rebuild thread http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=68423.0
BIKE OF THE MONTH - OCTOBER 2017
2003 Ducati M800ie
1997 Honda CR-V
2004 Honda CR-V
1966 Honda S90

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 10:17:24 AM »
Quote from: SKTP on May 28, 2010, 10:10:57 AM
What's a case powder coating run (ballpark)? $200ish or does the taping and prep bump that number way up?
That would be the high end, maybe $25 more if dual coatings, from Indy Powder Coating. That includes basic glass beading and masking. But you'll have to clean it, holes and overspray.
Logged
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,930
  • Bought her new 4/75
Re: What's the trick to remove the kick starter shaft in a 750?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2010, 11:42:05 AM »
I haven't gotten a price yet but that's what I'm expecting. I will use a different coater for my engine vs the frame stuff. The guy I will use for the engine is used to doing detailed stuff. I have seen a $2000 powder coat job on a titanium framed $10,000 bicycle. Many colors, fading, graphics but he wouldn't divulge details. The frame guy said $225-$250 to blast everything, black coat then clear coat for depth and protection. The frame includes all the other black painted pieces from the bike.

The side cutters look like the best situation. We'll see if the guy at the machine shop remembers to pull it for me.
Logged
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »