Topic: New CB750 4-4 pipes: your thoughts and opinions?

[Bob750]

I passed this thread onto a friend of mine who is a manufacturer's representative with mostly companies from China.

His initial response is "min order on parts like that is 1,000 units, sometimes more, rarely less..."  he said "do the math" and "you'd be better off looking in the US for a custom exhaust manufacturer that can do custom work, you can walk into his shop, see his work, know where he lives, so you don't lose your shirt"...  anyway, just HIS 2 cents...  sorry for being Debbie Downer.

How many members here with CB750s? Let's ALL get brand new Chinese pipes complete with lead paint for $150 shipped!

[mycb750k6]

Oh and another thing... In 1970 I couldn't wait to get rid of those pipes with that cheesy seam and weld on the top and bottom. Boy did they look cheap compared to the Limy pipes of the time. But now, it's part of their character. You gotta have those cheesy seams to look vintage. And besides I remember someone here saying it would be tough to beat the performance of the HM300s with any of the modern day 4-4, 4-2 or 4-1 versions and plenty of people have tried. Gotta say though that those stainless pipes sure are purdy.

[swellguy]

Let's ALL get brand new Chinese pipes complete with lead paint for $150 shipped!

Thank god this idea is a non-starter.

[Bob750]

Let's ALL get brand new Chinese pipes complete with lead paint for $150 shipped!

Thank god this idea is a non-starter.

You know I was being facetious right?

[swellguy]

Let's ALL get brand new Chinese pipes complete with lead paint for $150 shipped!

Thank god this idea is a non-starter.

You know I was being facetious right?

Yes I did. I just can't imagine Chinese and Stainless Steel exhaust in the same sentence.

[754]

You could hammer form the  seamed mufflers at home if you made  hardwood forms, and used steel with high formabilty, ie steel made for draw dies..

[BobbyR]

Let's ALL get brand new Chinese pipes complete with lead paint for $150 shipped!

Thank god this idea is a non-starter.

You know I was being facetious right?

Maybe not so far fetched. I would imagine that the new pipes are being made in China, India or Vietnam. The Chinese are outsourcing to Vietnam to reduce labor costs these days.

[grumpy]

The Chinese are outsourcing to Vietnam to reduce labor costs these days.

Seriously?!


OH! and BTW - I'm in for a set: decent chrome or stainless. I like the seam. I LIKE the bolt on heat shields - gotta have those. C- stand usage would be a plus. MUST have the OEM dimensions - nothing bobbed, chopped, shortened, turned up, turned out, etc.

[Duke McDukiedook]

And Indonesia.

[tlbranth]

I just found this thread....duh! I'm looking to do exactly what Hondaman was looking into - a stainless 4-4 set which would not cramp the oil filter, oil drain plug, side stand or center stand. I'm sort of in the beginning stages of planning this but if it's still a go........Is it?
By the way, the benjie (did I get that right) pipes look good except they are short of stock. They need to be another few inches longer to look right.
So did this plan die or is it still on?

[HondaMan]

I just found this thread....duh! I'm looking to do exactly what Hondaman was looking into - a stainless 4-4 set which would not cramp the oil filter, oil drain plug, side stand or center stand. I'm sort of in the beginning stages of planning this but if it's still a go........Is it?
By the way, the benjie (did I get that right) pipes look good except they are short of stock. They need to be another few inches longer to look right.
So did this plan die or is it still on?

Well, from my end it got an arrow through the heart when the first step of Obamacare (in 10/2010) jumped my health insurance from $430/month to $1200/month in one day. That was the first "stage" of its punishment [sic] of insurance companies. Since then, the other phases of it, not counting this last killing step, which will take it to $1600/month insurance payments for me, has kept me under water financially for any development projects. I would like nothing better than to start making replica 750 pipes, top triple trees (for 350F bikes), swingarm collars in quantity, and 6 other things I have in various stages of development. There just isn't enough money here to do it all. Or, frankly, almost any. 

[Carver]

I'm not sure how expensive the lead up process is but is it possible to do all the planning and then do a pre order to fund the actual production?

[PeWe]

Replica 4-4 that can replace my 4-1 would be nice! 4-4 that can support/improve 836, hotter cam, VM29 carbs...

[tlbranth]

I'm not sure how expensive the lead up process is but is it possible to do all the planning and then do a pre order to fund the actual production?

That sounds like a plan. I'd be willing to get in on it.

[Duke McDukiedook]

I'm not sure how expensive the lead up process is but is it possible to do all the planning and then do a pre order to fund the actual production?

Sounds good in theory but we are not talking about a couple hundred dollars here, you are talking potentially 25-50K if something along the line of 1000 units to get it started.

[JeffSTL]

I just found this thread....duh! I'm looking to do exactly what Hondaman was looking into - a stainless 4-4 set which would not cramp the oil filter, oil drain plug, side stand or center stand. I'm sort of in the beginning stages of planning this but if it's still a go........Is it?
By the way, the benjie (did I get that right) pipes look good except they are short of stock. They need to be another few inches longer to look right.
So did this plan die or is it still on?

Well, from my end it got an arrow through the heart when the first step of Obamacare (in 10/2010) jumped my health insurance from $430/month to $1200/month in one day. That was the first "stage" of its punishment [sic] of insurance companies. Since then, the other phases of it, not counting this last killing step, which will take it to $1600/month insurance payments for me, has kept me under water financially for any development projects. I would like nothing better than to start making replica 750 pipes, top triple trees (for 350F bikes), swingarm collars in quantity, and 6 other things I have in various stages of development. There just isn't enough money here to do it all. Or, frankly, almost any. 

What provision of the ACA in 2010 caused your insurance to go up $800 a month? What is this last "killing" step that will take it to $1600 almost $1200 more than just a few years ago?