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Offline fmctm1sw

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350F fork seal replacement. Losing hope...
« on: May 29, 2010, 04:58:04 PM »
I got the allen bolt out and I'm left with two pieces.  I can't seem to disassemble the top part any more.  I twisted and twisted the filler bolt opposite of the bottom and nothing... And is that chrome cover supposed to come off?  I can see the seal in there.  I'm using a spare set of forks for my first disassembly attempt.
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Offline tomkimberly

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Re: 350F fork seal replacement: Now what?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 05:32:24 PM »
Remove the chrome cover to replace the seal.



Offline fmctm1sw

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Re: 350F fork seal replacement: Now what?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 05:00:11 PM »
Anyone have any ideas on how to get that cover off.  I assume it's not as easy as it sounds...
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1973 CB350G
1975 CB550K
1983 GL650I
1973 CB750K3 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=92888.0)
1984 Kawasaki KLT-250 (AKA 3 wheeler of death)
1994 Honda TRX300
1999 Honda TRX250

Offline tomkimberly

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Re: 350F fork seal replacement: Now what?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 05:28:27 PM »
Sometimes they just "slip" right off, other times, it can be a bit*c.

I sure hope a PO did not repaint the lower tube and installed the chrome cover before the paint dried.

Some chemicals can be helpful but do not use any with acids as the aluminum will be harmed. Heat is most likley your best choice.


Tom


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Re: 350F fork seal replacement: Now what?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 07:37:29 AM »
I used a screwdriver to tap it out
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Offline fmctm1sw

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Re: 350F fork seal replacement. Losing hope...
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 04:15:46 PM »
This is really frustrating me.  I've had engines and transmissions apart but this is really kicking my a$$.  I read hoodellyhoo's thread about tapping around that cover with a screwdriver, I'll try that tomorrow.  I hit it with some WD40 and I'll let it sit overnight.  I really knackered one of those allen bolts that holds the fork together.  It stripped and I tried to drill it and a drill bit broke off in it.  It's making it impossible to drill through since the middle of the hole I started to drill is now blocked.  My next idea is to get that chrome cover off and try to pop the seal out and up the top of the tube without taking the fork apart.  Then slide the new seal all the way down from the top.  Someone give me some encouragement, I'm getting desperate...    ???
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Dude is that a tire ? or an O-ring..??

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This is not a pod thread
This is not a #$%* on my vacuum gauges thread
This is a help or GTFO thread.

1973 CB350F
1973 CB350G
1975 CB550K
1983 GL650I
1973 CB750K3 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=92888.0)
1984 Kawasaki KLT-250 (AKA 3 wheeler of death)
1994 Honda TRX300
1999 Honda TRX250

Offline Alan F.

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Re: 350F fork seal replacement. Losing hope...
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 07:18:57 PM »
My next idea is to get that chrome cover off and try to pop the seal out and up the top of the tube without taking the fork apart.  Then slide the new seal all the way down from the top. 

I know it's frustrating when you feel like it'll never work, like it's consciously resisting you and you're about to be beaten in a battle of wits with an inanimate object.  Some of us do crap like that for a living.

I think you can get the seal out from the top without disassembling the fork if you decide to go that route.

The first time I replaced fork seals I drilled through the metal part of the seal and threaded in a drywall screw, I did this in 3 locations around the seal and forced the seal up and out that way, but those tubes were trash anyway and I didn't care about scratching them more.

You could probably thread in 3 screws and protect the fork tube with some PVC pipe while using a slide hammer to pull the seal out, worst case you'd have to thread in a larger screw if it pulled through.

Food for thought, there's always another way. You can do it!
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Re: 350F fork seal replacement. Losing hope...
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 07:46:02 PM »
Someone give me some encouragement, I'm getting desperate...

In Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, I learned that it's important to watch out for gumption traps. You have suffered what is described as a setback. Don't let it sap all of your energy and drive for completing this project. Read the book if you haven't already. All of us should, really.

Hang in there.
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Re: 350F fork seal replacement. Losing hope...
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 08:22:53 PM »
I'm glad I'm not the only one taking a beating with CB350F forks.  I haven't even made it as far as you have!  I've stripped the allen bolts retaining the tubes in lower tubes.  Couldn't get an extractor at 7pm on a Sunday night, so the battle will continue tomorrow afternoon.

As for those chrome covers... I briefly attempted to remove one.  I noticed that there is a notch in the lower tubes (looks like a perfect fit for a straight blade screw driver) for prying those chrome cover off.  The notch is located either towards the rear of the bike or closest to the tire (as the lower tube would sit on the bike).  I decided to remove the upper tubes first so I could get a pair pliers with rubber tips on the chrome piece to aid in removal while I pryed with a screw driver.  THE ALUMINUM IS VERY SOFT relative to a screw driver, so be careful.

Haven't decided whether to put my upper tubes back on the bike- they are rusty and I worry about integrity.  Do you know where to get some new upper tubes?

Good luck, and maybe we will better by this time tomorrow!
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