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Offline SohRon

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CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold? Apparently!
« on: June 04, 2010, 03:41:59 PM »
I have been trying for some time now to find trim for the tank on my CB550, and it's proven to be an almost impossible task; searches of this forum have proven fruitless, and posting on the parts wanted forum (and others) have delivered no results. NOS trim is N/A, and I have yet to find a replacement; no one seems to be making it for this application, at least as far as I've been able to find.. Most of the used stuff I've seen is faded and peeling. Car door trim comes in too short a length, is too stiff, and is only 3/8" deep where the original trim runs @ 1/2". I  have seen others resort to painting the bare tank flange silver and have considered this as a last resort.   :'(

So, here's the question: does anyone know where I can find NOS trim or the equivalent? Say, 1/2" chrome channel? Or would it be possible to have some made? What have you done on your restoration? Why is it so hard to find this stuff? Any suggestions?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2010, 05:28:25 AM by SohRon »
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 04:12:18 PM »
Seen chrome pinstriping before. I couldnt tell you the width though. Plenty long enough for sure. Is the finish suppose to be chrome?  Hope that helps.

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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 05:01:45 PM »
I used a product I bought at a local parts store (Baxter's) called "Universal Door Edge Protector" (2 pc. 3/8" Chrome, T3805). It's chrome plated plastic (I think) that is very flexible and has adhesive inside the 'U' shaped channel (cross section shape). It was only like $6 but I think I needed two packs to do my CB500 tank.

It's held up great for 3+ years now, with no fading, peeling, or problems when gas spilled on it. I cleaned where I applied the chrome strips very well with alcohol before I stuck them on and I think that is key to it lasting.

Cowles Products #T3805 (universal door edge protector-chrome)

I'll try and post a better, close up picture, when my camera's battery recharges.
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 05:14:26 PM »
Is the finish suppose to be chrome?

The examples of original trim I"ve seen have been made up with a highly polished flexible steel U-channel covered in plastic. Chrome or polished steel U-channel would be a close substitute.

Universal Door Edge Protector" (2 pc. 3/8" Chrome, T3805)

Again, only 3/8"; original 1/2". 1/8" too short. I tried it, but it just doesn't fit the clips used to section off the trim, and I'm trying for a stock appearance.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2010, 01:46:56 PM by SohRon »
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 05:41:32 PM »
theres somone on ebay, the name escapes me, that sells chrome door edge molding (they call it "tank trim").
I used it with good results and it was cheap. The oe trim used to come as a kit as well as individual pieces, and you are correct, its rare as hens teeth. my 550 pic with the trim installed is in the 550 owners registry, page 2, jsaab2748. I got enough trim to do the entire tank for less than ten bucks.
It's not as wide as oe, and is seamless. Once I put it on, it looked good, so I stopped looking for the oe stuff.
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 05:43:27 PM »
Is the finish suppose to be chrome?

The examples of original trim I"ve seen have been made up with a Mylar tape wrapped around a flexible steel U-channel, then covered in plastic. Chrome or polished steel U-channel would be a close substitute.

Universal Door Edge Protector" (2 pc. 3/8" Chrome, T3805)

Again, only 3/8"; original 1/2". 1/8" too short. I tried it, but it just doesn't fit the clips used to section off the trim, and I'm trying for a stock appearance.

Oh well, it worked for me just fine and seems to hold up real good (even getting splashed by gas) and it really livens up the appearance of the gas tank for sure, but I just wanted chrome trim not necessarily a perfect resto job.

Sorry, I tried-I wish you luck....
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 06:39:40 PM »
theres somone on ebay, the name escapes me, that sells chrome door edge molding (they call it "tank trim").

Oh well, it worked for me just fine and seems to hold up real good

More of the same 3/8" plastic molding mentioned above, except in a longer roll. It does look good on a bike; I'll be the first to admit. And I'm not really knocking it, but it just isn't stock.

Thanks, guys, but I think you can see the trouble I and other restorers face trying to find this stuff.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 06:46:36 PM by SohRon »
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Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 07:30:18 AM »
Still not having much luck here in my quest for original CB550 tank trim or a replacement. There is a lot available for the 750s in several different styles; rather complicated, too, as compared to the fairly simple u-channel used on the 550s. I've seen some pretty meticulous 550 restorations posted here and I have to wonder where they got their trim?

If you're attempting to restore something to original stock condition, especially if you're planning to show it before judges, then anything that isn't exactly as it should be stands out like a sore thumb. Everything must be as it originally was when the bike left the factory, and while the 3/8" door moulding looks nice on a tank, and is great stuff if you want to spiff up your bike, it isn't what you would call "meticulous" restoration, and no serious restorer will consider it. If you somehow returned to 1974, none of the bikes in the showroom would display this stuff; all would have the 5-piece 1/2" trim with clips. There's a difference between just making a bike look nice and full restoration; you either have the correct part, or you have one that's too short.

Which brings me back to my original question: to those of you who have restored your bikes to stock, what did you do for trim? Restore the old stuff? Find it on ebay? Luck out and just have it? Make your own? Any suggestions other than the 3/8" door trim? Anyone?
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Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
CB550 Assembly Manual: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.0.html

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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 07:47:26 AM »
here is a link to site in England that specializes in restoring cars. Car builder solutions. have used them for the tank trim and some warning lights. good to deal with.
there is chrome trim there, that will work for your purpose possibly. perfection is troublesome...
looks to be the dimension your looking for. http://www.nfauto.co.uk/cbs_products_index.htm
look for chrome trim in the product listing.
here is a screen shot also.
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 08:03:36 AM »
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 09:05:29 AM »
Great! Thanks for the tips; I'll definitely look into these. This is more like what I'm looking for...

« Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 10:19:05 AM by SohRon »
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Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 08:55:50 PM »
SohRon, How about an update on that beautiful bike?  Putting it back together yet?
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Re: CB550 tank trim: more precious than gold?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 10:31:56 PM »
SohRon, How about an update on that beautiful bike?  Putting it back together yet?

Actually, things are moving in that direction now. I'll be getting the new frame sandblasted and powdercoated right around the middle of the month, and I'll be assembling after that. Right now I'm trying to tie up loose ends like this @#%^%$ tank trim buisness. I am, also, rebuilding the right hand switch and am preparing a post covering that which will officially drag the old thread up out of oblivion... so things are starting to move.

Thanks for the interest! And, haill, the 12mm chrome channel looks like it will be a near-perfect replacement for the OEM trim! Thank you so much!!
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Assembling my '74 CB550: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=86697.0
Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
CB550 Assembly Manual: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.0.html