Topic: Bonneville anyone???

[KeithTurk]

754 and I started to chat about Bonneville on another thread... thought we could start our own here....

I've been racing there for 14 yrs and I'm also one of the organizers of the race at Maxton NC. with the East Coast Timing Assn. ECTA

We've never set a seriuos record with a bike but we hold 11 records at Bonneville from 225mph to 261mph with the Camaro and another modified sports car we used to own...  My racing partner is the Editor in Chief of a Magazine called Hot Rod...  he builds the engines and I build the car... 

I might be able to find some pictures somewhere... I'll post them up when I do...

[KeithTurk]

[fastbroshi]

I think I just got a little jizz in my pants

[Don R]

Way too cool. I always thought when I get done drag racing, convert the RED to a lakester and just have a go. It has rear suspension but no front. How smooth is Maxton? I was told it's no fun without suspension.

[KeithTurk]

it's fairly rough...   But it doesn't take a full on suspension as much as it takes a Compliant suspension....  You really only need about 1" of total travel... so nothing fancy... and a Rear Engine Dragster is a perfect candidate for a Lakester chassis.... and Maxton hasn't had a lot of Lakesters so you'd clean up on points...

K

[KeithTurk]

forgot to ask what the wheel base was..... LONG is GOOD.... and with rear suspension...the front isn't that critical... Nice but not a show stopper...

[Don R]

235" wheelbase, curently running a 567" Steve Schmidt BBC carbureted with BMF heads on gas. VW diesel rabbit radiator might be a little small for a long run.

[KeithTurk]

water in the block???

Yeah... a fella might want to add a WATER TANK... or put that Radiator in a water tank to do my Water to Water cooler... ( I use it at BVille to maintain water temps for the Sports car... )( the Camaro just uses a MONGO radiator and a 5gal tank...

K

[Don R]

I've seen the Camaro in Hot Rod right?

[754]

Keith, a few things stick out from SPEEEDWEEEK..

 A kid near us in the pits had an 80s or 90s F-bird with an ebay purchased ex Nextel V-6 (3K , I think ).. that ran a bit over 200 I think first time out.. he even had his high school shop teacher, helping him tune.. The shop teacher admitted to me that they were not really close.. but he asked him if he wanted to come along and help tune!.. so he said sure.. Then he said, I really dont know ANYTHING ABOUT THESE ENGINES, BUT I CAN MAKE ANY ENGINE RUN GOOD.. .. .. I just thought that was pretty cool, we had to go look at it, to see what it was.... As they revved it, it sounded more like a bike engine..

 The other thing, nearly right beside our pits, the blonde lady from Montana with the ex Burkland Stude..  she had run 180ish the previous year, and bumped it to around 217.. .. Her smile was as wide as the sky, she was having SO much fun..  Verrry nice Lady, that one..

 The other thing, Tech guy by the name of Green, helped out a lot with the liner.. he is from up here in BC.. Had some VERY interesting conversations with him.. he ran a turboed CB 750 in the 70s that I recall seeing in a magazine..

 I been telling & telling the guys on here.. they really do not know what they are missing by not going..

[Sam Green Racing]

There is a dedicated forum for people that like going very very fast.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=61934.25

Welcome back Keith, I had noticed you posting again.

Sam

[KeithTurk]

The Camaro has been featured in Hot Rod....  quite a bit....  ( pretty standard for a magazine project car )

Here's it's second feature article    http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/113_0501_bonneville_national/index.html

It's one of my favorites as it's the first article with the cars name changed the "Hot Rod Magazine Spl. "

The Last 6 yrs has been a really good time.... David Freiburger has been the driving force behind what class's we run and after he builds the motor I usually fly out to LA and do the install in the car and get it ready....then we meet up on the Salt and make it happen.... 

Hey Sam.... it's good to see you again too.... Looking forward to your nappy butt showing up at Maxton...

[Sam Green Racing]

I might just do for a bit of fun, is there an Honda automatic class for old men.

Sam.

[KeithTurk]

Ahhh no... but I know the Race director.... maybe we can get him to build us a class....


Keith Turk
Race Director
East Coast Timing assn.

[Sam Green Racing]

I heard he was an OK guy, any relation?

Sam.

[Don R]

Lets see, the rear end is too narrow, There are some 9" ford housings in the crawl space and a nos set of 2.90 gears, 31 spline N case with a blueprinted traction lock, spool required? a spare set of wilwood stock car calipers and brackets, I'd need rotors, narrower tires and wheels for the back, Chute's OK, nah new chute, Lockup converter?  Lower that scoop to get the flat face down out of the wind, nah K&N aero scoop, New firesuit -15?  taller windshield, drop the coilovers a hole or 2, Just dreamin out loud.

[BLUE71TURBO]

 Hello mr. keith Turk.  I suppose you know old man CHARLES " SCOTTY " Scott from Scotty's Muffler. I'm a friend of the family. I live here in San Bernardino, Calif.  My friend Tom Face now own's Scotty's muffler shop.  Scotty was the first open wheeled car to run 200 mph back in 1953 !  He still holds a few records at other places. He was a hell of a man all the way to 91 years old. They use to store the roadster in thier shop behind my best friends motorcycle shop " NORMS CYCLE ".  I had the pleasure to help work on the roadster alot.  Crazy stuff !

                 

 Here's and old picture of another roadster they had ......

                 

[KeithTurk]

Don it's all working for me..... for Maxton you need Drag radial's.... 28" would be fine.... wider rear would be good... Windscreen is fine as long as you don't get buffetted to much... then you raise it... not till then.... same with the scoop....make it prove it's wrong....   

Look into a torsion bar style RED front suspension set up.... it would be fine... but again... I'm not sure I wouldn't drag my junk to Maxton just to see how it did....

Tranny needs to be an in and out box but your current gay ass Auto will work for a starter kit.... ( I really think God said we need to drive sticks.... ( I asked him.... and he said so ))

[Don R]

   I checked the rear and it is wide enough to get the tires outside the body line, Maybe there is a lakester in there somewhere. I told my wife were going top speed racing she smiled and said OK. Then she waits till I get over it. Maybe not.

Gay ass auto? Sam, was he talkin some smack here? Yeah, like I'm gonna run a stick in Super Comp.

[KeithTurk]

Nahhhh I'm just baggin on the Auto.... they are great for drag racing... which I rag on pretty hard.... ( even though I do Drag week every year ).... in Land Speed Racing.... you don't want anything to slip... it all needs to be Hooked up or locked up.. however they are great for folks who only have one arm and such..... it's like owning a Hondamatic and not being a school girl...  

[Don R]

     It's all good fun. I understand about the slush box. And I'm really diggin the pictures, more would be OK with me. I'm turning a little green with envy. Every race project starts with a dream. Right now I'm dreaming about push bars, clutches, bellhousings, rule books, I have a friend that went once, there was a flathead liner that Garlits drove, He helped with that.  oooh flatheads. I always wanted an offenhauser in a belly tank too.

[scottly]

And I'm really diggin the pictures, more would be OK with me.

More pics would be OK with me, too!

Slightly OT, BLUE71, were you in San Berdoo in the 60's,? If so, ever hear of a guy involved in drag racing named Ron Roseberry? 

[BLUE71TURBO]

 I came to San Bernardino in 68. I was only in the 3rd grade. Dad was stationed at Norton AFB. He was a loadmaster.
 His name sounds familier though. I've met alot of old racers through the years here.   
 

[754]

 Well, if you feel that way..

 I have a 6 pack of sorta rough wingtanks stashed nearby....

[scottly]

I came to San Bernardino in 68. I was only in the 3rd grade. Dad was stationed at Norton AFB. He was a loadmaster.
 His name sounds familier though. I've met alot of old racers through the years here.   
 

Thanks, it was a long-shot, anyway. He was one of my mentors in the early '70s, when he moved in next door in Santa Maria. I remember a picture on his mantle of a mid '60s white Mopar coming off the line...
Any more vintage pics??