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Offline Staggerlee

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Acewell 4000 Install
« on: June 12, 2010, 03:50:49 PM »
Now that I've got this thing installed & functioning correctly, I figured I'd put up a post on it.

So up to this point, my dash consisted of a handful of led pilot lights and a cheap-o Harbor Freight tach with a bicycle speedo attached to the top tree; it worked (sorta) but was always meant to just be a temporary solution until I came up with something that I really liked.
 

 
Electrosport.com has been telling me since last August that they’d have Acewell’s 4000 series gauge available “within the next 30 days”; after nine months of having sunshine blown up my ass I said screw it and just ordered one from a distributor in Japan – had it in my hot little hands in less than a week:
 

 
Hooking it up was pretty easy; fortunately the wiring diagram is written in English and Japanese or it would have been a bit more challenging.  The main harness coming from the gauge terminates in a handful of weatherproof connectors for the sub-harnesses; the whole mess will fit inside the headlight housing, but just barely.

The speedo is driven by a hall-effect sender which I mounted to the fork leg with a bracket fashioned from some scrap aluminum.  The magnet-tipped bolt that Acewell includes wasn't going to work for me, so I ended up epoxying a rare earth magnet directly to the brake rotor:



One thing to note is that it is very important that the magnet passes by the sender at as close to 90 degrees as possible, or you'll get wonky speed readings.

I tapped into the yellow coil wire to pull a signal for the tach:


 
The 4000 has two temp functions; ambient & engine.  I decided that I wasn’t terribly keen on the idea of drilling & tapping a hole through the sump to measure oil temp, so I made another bracket and attached it to one of the valve cover bolts to act as a quasi-cylinder head temp sender.  It’s not as accurate as if it was reading directly from the sump, but I figured at worst, it’s more than I had before:
 


For now, I left the ambient temp sensor hanging out inside the headlight bucket.
 
I attached the gauge to a bracket that I made then bolted to the underside of the tree; this also let me fine tune the position of the gauge so it was easier to read – one thing about the Acewells is that the LCD screen becomes hard to read you’re looking at it from a funny angle.
 

 
The indicator LED’s are bright as hell, which is why they look all washed out in the picture; they’re actually very crisp in real life.

The gauge also includes a handlebar-mounted switch that will allow you to scroll through the different functions without removing your hand from the grips; I didn't have any room on my clipons (plus the switch is a little fugly) for the bracket so I ended leaving the switch in the box.
 
Unfortunately the operators manual was written completely in Japanese so it took me a few days of trial & error to get the gauge setup correctly (like inputting the wheel circumference and ignition pulses per revolution) and to figure out the various functions.  Now that I’ve got it sorted though (and overcome the buyer's remorse) I'm really quite pleased with it.

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 05:21:13 PM »
Thanks for the review bud,i will be ordering one as soon as i make my mind up which one... ;)

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 01:46:24 AM »
Oh man that is the sweet model.  I was looking at the 4553, but it was so damn expensive.  I paid less for my bike lol.  I was wondering what you had decided to do when you said you "had a solution", by the time the German distributor was quoting you shipping.  Very sweet tach/speedo combo.  I'm still looking at the 2802 through Yahoo Japan Auctions.

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 08:18:00 AM »
Thanks for the review bud,i will be ordering one as soon as i make my mind up which one... ;)

Mick

Sure thing Mick; glad it helped.

I'm still looking at the 2802 through Yahoo Japan Auctions.

Ya, that's where I ended up getting this one from.  I'd no sooner placed a bid on the thing when the German dude replied to my email.  

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2010, 11:08:44 AM »
StaggerLee, it's a thing of beauty and now I want one.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 02:00:09 PM »
Spanks, duder!

If you do get one, save yourself a grip of cash and get it from this guy: http://www.acewell.de/ACE-4XXX.572.0.html

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 10:41:28 PM »
Spanks, duder!

If you do get one, save yourself a grip of cash and get it from this guy: http://www.acewell.de/ACE-4XXX.572.0.html
so how much did u pay and how much from this guy?
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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 10:55:46 PM »
There is a distributor in Australia but they want $359.00 for a black 2800 series gauge.... :o

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 08:04:56 AM »
so how much did u pay and how much from this guy?

I'm into it for about $550, including shipping, auction fees, etc.  The Germ lists the 4xxx series gauges on his site for ~300 euros; with the 40 euros he quoted me for freight to the US, you're a hair more than $400.

There is a distributor in Australia but they want $359.00 for a black 2800 series gauge.... :o

Mick

Jee-zus!  Is that USD or AUD?  Either way, that's way too much; I think my buddies 2800 gauge was under $200 back when electrosport was still distributing them.

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 06:15:50 PM »
Thats AUD and "yes" it is still bloody expensive. Aren't these originally from Japan?

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 07:24:03 PM »
Nah, they come out of Taiwan.

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 07:28:12 PM »
I wonder if there is some way to buy them out of Taiwan? I think i read somewhere they do a minimum order of 10 gauges.....

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2010, 11:19:12 PM »
so  what would the price be per item outta taiwan if we could get ten of em?
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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2010, 03:36:43 AM »
Not too sure but electrosport or who ever was the US importer was selling them for $119 USD for the 2800 series gauges.

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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 11:21:55 AM »
i love this speedo/tach combo and ive been considering purchasing one myself. im wondering if it displays your speed in kmh only or is there a mph setting as well?

looks awesome
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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2011, 01:27:15 PM »
maybe cause im a noob here nobody wants to answer my previous question, so stagerlee i guess im asking you- is there a mph read out or is it only in kmh ??? i really want to get one.
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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2011, 01:44:01 PM »
Yes it does! According to the instructions that I looked up on the informative interweb and other forums asking the same question:

How to convert units?
1). Push and hold both MODE&RESET buttons for 2 seconds to go into the unit-setting screen.
2). It displays KM/H or M/H, each press of RESET button converts unit.
3). Press MODE button for 2 seconds to complete the unit setting and re  turn to main screen.
4). Automatic reversion to main screen if no button operation for 20 seconds.
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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2011, 02:29:29 PM »
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Re: Acewell 4000 Install
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 06:13:47 AM »
Hey Stagga I'm digging the install of that Acewell looks great. Really like the functionality of these hybrid gauges. Now my problem is I'm deciding whether to go with the Acewell or found this last weekend, Motogadget gauge made in Germany. $700 bucks  :o