Topic: Anybody else have this problem?

[WiredForStereo]

I was trying to get the carbs out of my CB650, and the airbox gave me  a terrible headache.  Is it worth the money to go with those little filter pods? 

This thing has two boxes that work together, one with the filter, then one that all the carbs hook to.  I cant get the second one out without removing the carbs which is like squeezing a semi truck through my front door.  Am I doing something wrong?

While I have the bike in exploded view, does anyone have any suggestions as to modifications I should make?  I am seriously considering the filter pods, but they are a little more expensive, are they worth it?

Thanks
Sol

[egar]

I agree that it is an absolute #$%* removing and replacing the carbs after a cleaning. I had to do it twice before my bike was road ready. However, the gurus on this site, such as Oldtimer, will tell you that it is a bad idea to switch to pods. This change could affect your jet performance gas-air ratio, etc. I, personally have stuck with what came on the bike originally. Others might disagree. This is a thread that comes up often, so you might want to do a search....

[Gordon]

Changing to pod filters and the subsequent re-jetting that will be involved will require many more carb removals/reinstallations before you finally get the correct mixture (if you ever do).  So switching to pods is not really the best idea if ease of maintenance is the end result you're after. 

I'm sure Honda had their reasons, but I don't understand why all the models except for the 750 had that particular air filter/air box setup.  The two-piece air box on the 750 is a million times easier to remove than the others and makes pulling the carbs a piece of cake in comparison. 

[KB02]

Like Egar said, you might want to do a search. You'll find a million pros and cons for making the switch vs. staying stock.

Search under POD FILTERS or STOCK AIR BOX or smoewthing like that and you'll be amazed at the list that comes up.

[rab1dwolf]

the airbox is a pain to remove but I realized two things this last time that made it easier to get ther carbs out.

1) remove the shiny metal sides the airbox squishes more.
2) use a bungie/belt/rope whatever and put it around the airbox right under the round parts that connect to the carbs and have someone pull it as tight as possible.


Those carbs came out quite easily then

[cb650]

Rabid is right.  As for jetting with pods, with a stock exhaust dont worry about jets.  the more people you ask about jets the more opinions you get.  Stock jetting is also for sea level at specific temps and chances are your alittle above.



                      Terry

[Zeke]

Here's what I did.

I used a piece of rope and a "rope rachet".  Search the web to see what I mean, you can buy them at the hardware store.

Loop the rope behind your rear shock towers, and in front of the airbox over the carb boots.  Pull the rope super tight, which pulls the airbox back to the frame and holds it there.  The rope rachet keeps the rope tight, so you can do it alone.

Now, you have just enough room to pull carbs back and slide them out the side.

I got them out in 10 minutes the second time.

On the 650, make DAMN sure you have disconnected the choke cable, and using a piece of wire tie the PLASTIC choke arm in the fully on position to get it out of the way.  If you don't and it snags on the airbox boots, it'll snap it.

You cannot buy this part.  I had to wire mine back together, and actually had another forum member machine a replacement for me.  The wired one is still working but could break at any time.  Be careful.

Zeke

F'ing stupid honda plastic @#$%! choke lever. 

[Kelvin8]

Gets easier with practice. Not that you WANT to practice. It's definetly easier in warm weather, so you may want to hit the rubber thingies with a hair dryer first.

[cb650]

A little silicon or wd-40 helps too.




          Terry