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Motorcycle license test
« on: July 08, 2010, 05:37:01 PM »
I've been riding on and off since i was 7 years old and on the streets for about ten years now and i've finally decided to get my full license. I've had a learners permit since i was 16.  I'm wondering if anyone has any helpful tips or bad habits to exclude lol. I'm a very confident rider and generally obey the laws, and am well versed in lane blocking,
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2010, 05:48:13 PM »
Don't know about your region of the country, but here in Ontario one of the key items is to do "traffic checks" regularly.  Like, check your shoulders and mirrors every 10 seconds to confirm what is behind.  Also check every crossroad and alleyway as well as check when stopping and when starting off.  I sometimes think they expect you to know more of what is happening behind and to your sides, as what is coming up ahead.

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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2010, 06:20:47 PM »
In Virginia, you automatically fail if you start your bike and you're not sitting on it.
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 07:47:39 PM »
Keep your visor down, or wear approved eye protection.  Back in high school, my buddy got failed for lifting his visor to receive directions from the proctor, then forgetting to lower it when he started off  ::)
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 07:52:59 PM »
Exaggerate your head movements when checking side streets as you approach them.  They want to see that you're looking to make sure an intersection is clear before you pass it. 

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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2010, 08:17:45 PM »
The zig-zag in the cones knocked off well more than half of the 75 that tested the day I did.  My K6 performed flawlessly for me.  My tester said, "you aced the test".  I attributed my success more to the bike.  They guys on big Harley's, crotch rockets, 'Wings all had major issues in the cones.  For me (and my K6), it seemed like a walk in the park.  :)
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2010, 10:06:55 PM »
Here in SC I know many with permits only so they dont have to take the test! On a 10ft chopper it must be hard. They just renew theyre permit every 2 or so years. I passed my test 4 years ago on a 78 400 Hawk. My biker friends were envious but not so to be seen on my Hawk! ;D
  One has an 89 sportster with 5800 miles on it that is always broke! I rode it to the beach and back this spring(when it was running! ) he needed My metric allen wrench to to tighten his front brake lever . I was shocked. I really wondered if it was an aftermarket piece!!! Another is the President of the local Yamaha Star motorcycle chapter. Hes older than I and has owned many 4Cyl Hondas BITD. He was suprised i took and passed it! He puts 10>15K a year on his bikes!!
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2010, 03:52:06 AM »
when i did mine years ago i had a fully road registered dirt bike,but i hired a little road bike for the test,,so i looked a bit more like a normal rider.,the lower road bikes also are easier through the cones and other stupid handling tests.smile a lot and look the guy in the eye,dont have a hangover.you dont get forever on a permit here,,you gotta face the music.
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 07:01:57 AM »
in WA, if you take the MSF course, they test you for your endorsement at the end of the weekend.  pass it an there's no more tests to take.....on your own bike if you have the permit to ride it to class and it passes the safety chk. 
you might just pick up a new skill in the class. 
you'll at least get a few days on a closed course on your bike.  :)
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2010, 07:12:12 AM »
in WA, if you take the MSF course, they test you for your endorsement at the end of the weekend.  pass it an there's no more tests to take.....on your own bike if you have the permit to ride it to class and it passes the safety chk. 
you might just pick up a new skill in the class. 
you'll at least get a few days on a closed course on your bike.  :)
Same here in Ohio, and in Florida. Also, you call your insurance co. and they have you fax a copy of your MSF cert. then they give you a discount on your motorcycle ins. I've done this in FL, and OH. and the savings was more than the cost of the MSF coarse.  ;D
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 07:16:56 AM »
Looking at the comments from different regions, I see that "licensing" is quite different from area to area.  Here in Ontario we have the graduated licensing set-up, as it is called.  With this process there are three graduated levels of licensing:

M1: Requires only that you take a multiple-choice test that covers motorcycle related items as well as rules of the road.  This beginner license is good for 90 days and allows riding any licensed motorcycle on the streets, with 4 restrictions: 1. No passengers.  2. No riding half-hour after sunset until half-hour before sunrise.  3. No riding on highways with posted speed limits over 80 kph (50mph) - except with some specific listed exceptions in northern part of province.  4. No alcohol - that's 0.000% registered blood alcohol level.

M2: Requires that you pass a skills demonstration test on a motorcycle, in a parking lot.  We give instruction and are regulated to administer this test at a safety school with which I teach.  Our school supplies the parking lot and motorcycles (all under 250cc) where students in two days and an evening classroom are taken through all basic operation, starting as if they had absolutely zero previous experience.  The M2 is issued only after the person demonstrates the required skills, either by completing successfully a safety course such as ours, or after being tested by the licensing ministry at their facilities on the applicant's own motorcycle.  (It can be harder to go around pylons on a many bikes larger than 250cc. ;))  The M2 is also only issued after the rider operates under the M1 restrictions for at least 60 days.  The M2 is good for a period of 5 years, and has only one restriction: NO ALCOHOL!

M: This final level of license (which doesn't expire, except every 5 years you pay a re-registration fee) is obtained after a period of 18-22 months having a M2 level of license.  The shorter period of wait comes from having obtained the M2 at a safety course.  The test for getting it is a road test on your own motorcycle - or one you provide.  That's where all the traffic checks are needed in completing a prescribed route, where the "evaluator" follows as a passenger in an automobile while giving road direction to the motorcyclist in front over a one-way radio headset.  There are no more restrictions with a full M license, except if you are found to have more than 0.08% blood alcohol, you go to jail.  If you have over 0.05% (but less than 0.08%) they take your driving license for an escalating period of time (that also includes operating any other vehicle...they are all the same...just a different classes of license)...and they start counting how may more times you might found to be drinking and driving /riding.

Besides the three graduated levels of motorcycle licenses that are described above, there are some special variants.  One deals with only being qualified/allowed to ride a three-wheeled motorcycle, and the other restricts you to a "limited-speed scooter" (defined as having a displacement no more than 50cc and certified by the manufacturer to only be capable of 60 kph - about 40 mph).

One more thing:  All motorcyclists must wear an approved helmet.  Eye protection and body armor is optional for the "law".
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 11:02:26 AM »
When I first started riding in the early 80s there was no motorcycle endorsement.
Now the road test is to ride around the block and they watch you from inside the building.

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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2010, 04:32:54 AM »
practice low speed maneuvering
here in mich you have to come to a stop without putting your legs down
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2010, 02:46:03 PM »
Looking at the comments from different regions, I see that "licensing" is quite different from area to area.  Here in Ontario we have the graduated licensing set-up, as it is called.  With this process there are three graduated levels of licensing:

M1: Requires only that you take a multiple-choice test that covers motorcycle related items as well as rules of the road.  This beginner license is good for 90 days and allows riding any licensed motorcycle on the streets, with 4 restrictions: 1. No passengers.  2. No riding half-hour after sunset until half-hour before sunrise.  3. No riding on highways with posted speed limits over 80 kph (50mph) - except with some specific listed exceptions in northern part of province.  4. No alcohol - that's 0.000% registered blood alcohol level.

M2: Requires that you pass a skills demonstration test on a motorcycle, in a parking lot.  We give instruction and are regulated to administer this test at a safety school with which I teach.  Our school supplies the parking lot and motorcycles (all under 250cc) where students in two days and an evening classroom are taken through all basic operation, starting as if they had absolutely zero previous experience.  The M2 is issued only after the person demonstrates the required skills, either by completing successfully a safety course such as ours, or after being tested by the licensing ministry at their facilities on the applicant's own motorcycle.  (It can be harder to go around pylons on a many bikes larger than 250cc. ;))  The M2 is also only issued after the rider operates under the M1 restrictions for at least 60 days.  The M2 is good for a period of 5 years, and has only one restriction: NO ALCOHOL!

M: This final level of license (which doesn't expire, except every 5 years you pay a re-registration fee) is obtained after a period of 18-22 months having a M2 level of license.  The shorter period of wait comes from having obtained the M2 at a safety course.  The test for getting it is a road test on your own motorcycle - or one you provide.  That's where all the traffic checks are needed in completing a prescribed route, where the "evaluator" follows as a passenger in an automobile while giving road direction to the motorcyclist in front over a one-way radio headset.  There are no more restrictions with a full M license, except if you are found to have more than 0.08% blood alcohol, you go to jail.  If you have over 0.05% (but less than 0.08%) they take your driving license for an escalating period of time (that also includes operating any other vehicle...they are all the same...just a different classes of license)...and they start counting how may more times you might found to be drinking and driving /riding.

Besides the three graduated levels of motorcycle licenses that are described above, there are some special variants.  One deals with only being qualified/allowed to ride a three-wheeled motorcycle, and the other restricts you to a "limited-speed scooter" (defined as having a displacement no more than 50cc and certified by the manufacturer to only be capable of 60 kph - about 40 mph).

One more thing:  All motorcyclists must wear an approved helmet.  Eye protection and body armor is optional for the "law".

To add to this:

There are 3 portions of the written test in Ontario - general road rules, road signs, and motorcycle specific questions.

Passthewheel.com has a motorcycle road test checklist specifically for Ontario, but could probably be used as a guide in other provinces and states.

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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 05:11:01 AM »
Hey Cool beans guys!  I just FINALLY did my M road test....being on the brink of my 5 year M2 expiry here in Ontario.   Last Tuesday!   Since my now...only streetbike is a build in progress I borrowed my buddies wifes Suzuki Maurauder ... 250cc's of cruizing BEAST! ahah...   The thing was AWESOME to ride for a test... you couldn't do anything wrong with clutching if you tried and it was very light and ultra easy to drive...pretty much a  perfect first time ladies bike! (if you're looking to introduce somebody to riding)

Regardless!...I passed!! Yeeehaww..  The previous boys were right about always looking around.  I'd exaggerated every side to side look, examined the whole environment at stop lights....every 7-10 seconds make your helmet go side to side...shoulder checks before any position change or turn.   Secondly is Lane positions...(keep on that like a glove!)  Other than that...it was pretty much typical rules of the road...and an "emergency" stop... in which you pull over...kickstand the bike...get off....leaving the signals on... then get back on and safely re-merge with traffic once you're all set.  

Two ladies followed me around in a car....they put an ear-piece radio in my helmet and gave directions thru that.... it was a 30minute ride.... from the testing center, thru the city, down some one-ways, crossed tracks, residential area, school zone, merged onto a major highway...exited...back thru town to the test center.

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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2010, 05:52:58 AM »
In Connecticut the law recently changed to require all new applicants to take a rider's safety course. I did when it was optional, it was informative and helped build some good skills.

I'm waiting for a helmet law,of which I am not opposed to.

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 06:29:45 AM »
MSF course got me my "M" in Kansas.

Well worth the $125US.
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2010, 06:36:57 AM »
MSF course got me my "M" in Kansas.

Well worth the $125US.


$125? Wow. The county I live in in MI offers a safety course (3 days) that gives you a pass on the road test for $25.

How long/extensive was the $125 course?

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2010, 06:39:33 AM »
MSF course got me my "M" in Kansas.

Well worth the $125US.


$125? Wow. The county I live in in MI offers a safety course (3 days) that gives you a pass on the road test for $25.

How long/extensive was the $125 course?

In WA, $125 gets you 6hrs classroom/written test, and 10hrs on roadcourse/riding test. All over 2.5 days.
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Re: Motorcycle license test
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2010, 06:52:19 AM »
$125? Wow. The county I live in in MI offers a safety course (3 days) that gives you a pass on the road test for $25.

How long/extensive was the $125 course?

When I took my test in NY, it was the class+road test as well.


Also, my two cents on the test itself - I knew the cones were going to be my downfall, so I decided to take the hit on points by looking down in one section - looking down was two pts per look, hitting a cone was fail. 

I passed with a 96%

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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2010, 06:53:39 AM »
Same here.

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 05:46:28 AM »
No way!?...here in Ontario Canada...I took the Motorcycle Skills & Safety Course...and it ran me $390... it was a Friday night, all day Sat & Sunday.... you left with your M2 license....still not full beans.  And DAMN expensive!... but it was a VERY good course to take! Learnt lots

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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2010, 05:56:08 AM »
No way!?...here in Ontario Canada...I took the Motorcycle Skills & Safety Course...and it ran me $390... it was a Friday night, all day Sat & Sunday.... you left with your M2 license....still not full beans.  And DAMN expensive!... but it was a VERY good course to take! Learnt lots

I'm sure you learned more in your $390 class, but this is what $25 will get you where I live.
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 06:58:35 AM »
WOW that is awesome!!..Wish we had a course with costs like that...sounds like they probably cover most of what we did within ours.... and even if you took all three!....you're still under a third of the cost....with probably a lot more SKILL!   Sometimes I wish I lived in the states!  Then I remember how much I love our beavers.....  those furry mammals get me every time.    ;)

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 07:12:48 AM »
Well my test is tomorrow afternoon  :-\ I can't use my bike due to drag pipes and lack of signal lights/one mirror and the only bike I could track down was my buddy's 2000 FZR1000 which I'll be riding for the first time tomorrow... Yup I'm nervous! at least his bike is lighter and twice as fast  ;D
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