Topic: be careful out there.

[Bryan Boyle]

The lady rider in question is ok, btw.  But, the scum who cut her off and then claimed it was
HER fault should be thoroughly reduced by whatever means to a quivering blob of goo.  Of course,
she had a helmet cam running, which the LEOs were very interested in viewing.

http://socalsportbikes.info/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=34948&page=1

Video links in first message.

Be careful out there

[lassenc]

403 - Forbidden access.

[martini]

I'm glad she was okay, what the hell was the civic driver doing?

[skamania19]

Man, that sent a shiver down my spine! Good thing traffic stopped right away. I'm going to look into one those cams she was wearing.

[eldar]

A person like that needs to be beaten and never allowed to drive again. How do you lose control on dry pavement with no one around you???!!

[clarkjh]

Looks like he spiked the e-brake.

[heffay]

WTF

[mylittleho]

Consensus is (from the forums I have seen this on) is that the Honda Civic was speeding up and was about to get over into the middle lane when he looked up and saw traffic was stopped.. he hit the brakes locking up the tires (non ABS), and while skidding.. he tried to STEER into the center lane which only made him spin out..

Guy was a real Asshat.. told the police it was her fault and that she ran into him.. said he was at a full stop and she could have gone around him or stopped but ran into him instead

BTW NICE TA-TA's Eh? (watch the video and you'll see what I mean)

[heffay]

It almost looks deliberate to me... deliberate in how many ways, i dont know.

we all need to take it upon ourselves to do something though (educate)... did you notice how she said it hurt to lay down then someone said "oh its probably her back"... about 10 seconds later another woman asks if she wants her helmet off!

ok people... o-nay aking-tay off of the elmet-hay at the scene.  (unless of course you are the paramedic)

[siter81]

I ONLY RIDE IN THE LATER PM AND EARLY ON WEEKENDS.IF I DONT GET CUT OFF OR TAILGATED I FEEL THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG.DRIVERS JUST DONT PAY ATTENTION TO THERE SURRONDINGS.I DONT GIVE THEM THE 1 FINGER SALUTE OR HAVE A VERBAL WITH THEM. I MEARLY SMACK THE SIDE OF MY HELMET AND POINT TO MY HEAD.HAVE BRAIN USE IT?

Sorry about the ramble.

[Teach]

I MEARLY SMACK THE SIDE OF MY HELMET AND POINT TO MY HEAD.HAVE BRAIN USE IT?

That's a good one...mind if I borrow it sometime?  Of course, I'll never think to when the situation warrants.

[HondaMan]

In my 780,000+ miles of non-racing road-riding, I've seen much, some like this. Here's a few things I used to teach in our Motorcycle Safety courses:

#1: You're invisible. Drive like it. NO ONE will EVER see you, because they are looking for a truck.
#2. The other guy is stupid. Assume that 100% of the time. It's crude, but may save you. Cell phones make this worse.
#3. If you have an ego or a temper, LEAVE IT AT HOME. It will kill you on the street. And, the bigger your ego, the less displacement you should be riding.
#4. Learn to ride. Learn to stop. Learn to slide sideways and yank throttle so you can bail off your bike. BE IN SHAPE. Don't sit on your saddle, RIDE it. Throw it around, drop it, jump off of it. Do this in an empty parking lot, by the way...these things will teach you far more than anyone can explain with words. And, it will make you aware and humble in traffic, which is the best way to be.

Ride safe. Always.

[hiwayman_750]

I thought I was the only perv who would notice "TA-TA's" in a situation such as that...

[seaweb11]

I found myself here

after choosing one of the links.
Makes you think???

Their motorcycle Video home page seems to be here http://www.youtube.com/results?search=motorcycle  lots of other not so sad bike videos.

[seabird]

My 44-y.o son (who incidentally is a Class 1 London Metropolitan Police Driver/Motorcycle driver) was taken out yesterday morning by a driver halted in a traffic queue, who decided he didin't want to wait for the traffic to move on and U-turned without looking straighht across Son's track.  Son was doing 25mph in opposite carriageway (on duty and heading for the scene of the traffic halt) and was 30 feet from the pratt as he began the turn.  Result was one written off Kawasaki ZXR, and Son's left side bruised shoulder to ankle. (fortunately nothing broken - except his nice new kwacker).

First words from the a-hole car driver were...you guessed it "I didn't see you".

Seabird

[dusterdude]

#$%*,they never do,i guess that makes it alright.

[skamania19]

Boy, I learned a lesson this summer, and almost learned it the real hard way. At the end of my 4 day 1200 mile trip I was 15 miles from home and starting to let my guard down. A car pulled out from a side road and I had to brake hard and take evasive action.  (S)he saw me at the last second and sped up so we missed. Pucker Factor: 10. Closest call the whole trip was 20 minutes from home! You just can't afford to completely relax until you're home eating a sandwich.

[cbjunkie]

Seabird,
Sorry to hear about that - I'm sure it scared the ever-living sh*t out of you - Glad to hear your son is alright.

Will the driver be charged with a crime of any sort? What is his liability under British law?

Junkie...

[Terry in Australia]

My 44-y.o son (who incidentally is a Class 1 London Metropolitan Police Driver/Motorcycle driver) was taken out yesterday morning by a driver halted in a traffic queue, who decided he didin't want to wait for the traffic to move on and U-turned without looking straighht across Son's track.  Son was doing 25mph in opposite carriageway (on duty and heading for the scene of the traffic halt) and was 30 feet from the pratt as he began the turn.  Result was one written off Kawasaki ZXR, and Son's left side bruised shoulder to ankle. (fortunately nothing broken - except his nice new kwacker).

First words from the a-hole car driver were...you guessed it "I didn't see you".

Seabird

I'm glad to see that your boy is ok Sea-bee, when you said "taken out", I initially thought the worst............ I've got to say though, that after 37 years of riding, I still don't always see bikes, I've done some advanced rider courses, and and can repeat all those safety chants that the instructors are paid to teach us, but bikes are hard to see. I think if anyone says that they always conciously look for bikes (regardless of their experience) they're not being totally honest. Cheers, Terry.

[SteveD CB500F]

Will the driver be charged with a crime of any sort? What is his liability under British law?

Probably "driving without due care and attention" which is pretty much a catch-all over here.  "Dangerous driving" is much more serious (too serious probably as don't often see convictions for this) and usually reserved for when someone is killed.  There is often debate about the ability of the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service - here you are prosecuted by the Queen, not the police) as they do seem to go for the lower charge which is easier to prove in court.

[cbjunkie]

good call, terry. i'm definitely guilty of negligence at times, but i AM a better driver for being a rider - and lots more observant, both of traffic rules and of traffic fools...