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75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« on: July 23, 2010, 09:03:44 PM »
I have a 75 CB550f en route and was thinking about having pods instead of the airbox, however ive been told the airbox is necessary for vacuum, and the pod filters would just make the bike run like crap because you cant replace the mains. Does anyone know if this is true?

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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 09:18:35 PM »
You can change the mains, but unless you oil the pods or otherwise plug them up to some extent you Will not be happy with the bottom to mid range throttle response.

against some wise advice I tried it and even with some pretty significant motor mods it just would not draw enough fuel to come off idol properly. the stock box is back in place with just a home made foam filter.

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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 09:58:19 PM »
I would run the bike stock first so you get a feel for how it behaves.
then if and only if you like tinkering, go with pods. I run pods  ;D
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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 06:35:57 AM »
I would run the bike stock first so you get a feel for how it behaves.
then if and only if you like tinkering, go with pods. I run pods  ;D

how'd you set your bike up to get it running?  i'm thinking of running pods since i'm putting the bike together and haven't ever run it. got any tips you can share?

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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 06:42:15 AM »
From my personal experience...

Put the airbox back on.  You can buy a drop in air filter from "UNI". 


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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 09:08:00 AM »
Another vote here for the stock airbox [I have a '76 550F].
W/four carbs, it's hard enough to tune it properly in stock form without asking for more.
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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 09:17:48 AM »
Main jets are replacable, just not easy to get and expensive compared to the screw in type
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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 09:43:37 AM »
You could read the FAQ about carburetors.

If you are building the bike for the track and peak power at red line and above that, use pods, or V stacks.
If you want a well mannered street bike that functions well and predictably at all throttle settings, use the stock air induction.  For the 550,  the UNI NU-4055 works well and is more economical than the stock paper type, provided you don't drive though sandstorms with frequency.

If you want to learn in excruciating detail how each of the 3 major fuel metering circuits behaves at each and every throttle position that can be set, by inferring from plug deposits what the combustion conditions were with that last carb setting change, then use pods.
Alternately, you can also pay for dyno time.

You CAN change the mains, (finding them is another matter)
You CAN change both the position and alter the taper of the slide needles  (But you should have a stock of spares to modify.)
You CAN add or plug holes in the carb's emulsion tubes.
You CAN change the pilot jet.
You CAN change the main air jet size.
You CAN change the pilot air jet or adjust its contribution with the pilot screw.
You CAN change the slide cutaway angle to recover transition from pilot circuit to throttle valve. (You should have spare slides to on which to experiment.)

You might be able to ignore some of the adjustments outlined above.

Or, you might be lucky and not notice some aspect of carb operation that doesn't work as well as the stock set up.

FYI, most pods only look good on the outside.  Inside is nightmare for smooth even air flow and it is placed right at the entrance of the carb.

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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 01:34:26 PM »
You could read the FAQ about carburetors.


FYI, most pods only look good on the outside.  Inside is nightmare for smooth even air flow and it is placed right at the entrance of the carb.

Cheers,

My inexperience shows with using message boards (and pods!) that are sure to have ample amounts of info already placed elsewhere! thanks for the info guys i appreciate it, i thought the supersports were 'special' and were incompatible with pods, but note taken! Air box it is!! haha

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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 01:59:15 PM »
Dont get um wrong. Pods do work BUT they take allot more time to set up and maintain. CV carbs do not work well with them most of the time. If your new to bikes and do not have the sync guages then Pods are not for you. get some time and experience with the bike and tunning it.

I have a Ninja that runs great with PODS with CV carbs. The trick was getting it set up. It still has the stock jets. I had to set the carbs and sync them with NO filters at all first. It cracked out on the top end with no filters. Then I had to resync it when I put the pods on. It runs great now but I know when it comes time to replace the pods I will Need to resync them again. That is another downfall to Pods. But for me at the time it was cheeper than buying a whole intake system for it since it had nothing at all when I bought it.

I have tried Pods on my 78 750F and using the same method it runs great too. One thing .. the 78 has an accelerator pump system on it which helps allot off the line.. It does run a little better with the stock system on it so that is what is on it.
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Re: 75 CB550f main jets replaceable? pods a bad idea?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 10:58:47 AM »
Darts-Parts on e-bay is a great source for main jets.  I  bought two jets for $7 including shipping.

Here's the link: http://stores.ebay.com/Darts-Parts