thanks cookindaddy,i took these pipes to a sand blaster who does work for my boss and he suggested getting them de chromed as sand will just more or less bounce off,chrome is hard,if you want re chrome then de chrome is the go,chrome like painting requires a good flat surface to start with,sand blasting is bad for a chrome refinish,steel must be polished before plating,you cant just chrome over defects,they will show up.