Topic: Dont know what to do! gangs have moved in.

[bikerbart]

I lived in a bad area near the tracks,one side was white the other black.The closer you got to the tracks the worse it was,gangsta's on one side,white trash on the other.First day I moved in the young punks(10-12 yrs old)stole my friggin pit bulls.Problem is when I raise dogs I raise them to be good,nice dogs.What idiots steal pitbulls,lots.So I called the cops ,they came and took a statement and said I wouldnt see those dogs again.That wasnt what I wanted to hear,so I took my problem to the source.I went up to a group of young troublemakers and told em I would pay $100 for each dog ,the next day there they were.Of course I paid them.After livin there for 4 years I ran into every kind of trouble you can Imagine.Everytime I pulled my gun out on my property I called the cops to let them Know,they appreciated this.I can go on,but In my opinion,get out of there.

[jbrick28]

in my area they closed down the schools and shipped "the other element" to the good side of town. Now they moved to my side of town and ruined our only good high school and good neighborhoods. Not to mention they destroyed all the houses on their side of town so bad that the city had to tear down the houses which left them with nowhere to live except in my neighborhood. Screw credit, think about you and your family.

[rhos1355]

I know it sounds a bit "up-my-own-backside" to say this, but as a previous contributor already mentioned, try and find like minded and able bodied fellow citizens. Organise a group that can bombard your local council/representatives Police chiefs with letters/phonecalls/visits telling them to get their fingers out and protect your right to live in peace and quiet.
Try the local churches, veterans associations etc to find people that'll help. Even if all they're able to do is give you valuable advice.
It will be a very lonely path at first, but as time moves on and the powers that be get sick and tired of receiving letters/phone calls/visits from you and your group and perhaps, perhaps start doing something, you watch; loads more people will jump on the bandwagon.
I'm not sure that brandishing a gun at every situation is a good thing. Eventually you will come up against someone with a bigger gun than you. Then what do you do? Call his bluff? Or end up looking like a pussy? Or in a box?
Sorry, mate. That might sound a bit harsh but I don't see a gun as a good "argument ender".
Remember; the power lies with the people, but they're just looking for a leader.

[Blasbo]

We've had some trouble in our neighborhood, nothing like what you are talking about though. I know most of the previous comments say get out, and it may be to that point. If it's not too late get your like minded neighbors organized and call the cops every time you see something suspicious. The police are fairly responsive in our town. We had a string of lawnmowers get stolen (including mine). When I reported it they came right out and were able to catch the thief and return my mower. Also had some cars broken into. Enough people reported it and they were able to catch them.
If enough people are involved and the police too, you can get your neighborhood back.
Good luck!

[Goober]

The problem is not so much the cops. Yes they have less to patrol the area now which sucks, But everytime my neighbors or i have called the cops they are there lickedy split. Problem is our court lets them go. Last year when my house got broken into, the kid was already a felon at 21 years old, and they gave him 6 months in jail when he touched my guns (thats an instant 5 years for a felon) and theft over ++++. So its not like they let anything stick.

Anyone here know anything about bankruptcy or shortselling? My house appraised for 98,000 in 2006, i payed 70,000 total including closing and all that. Now its not even worth 40-50k and i still owe 68k. Talked to my girlfriend and she doesnt feel safe there at all. And plans on buying her own place within the next year or so. And we will more then likely be married by there or shortly after. her credit isnt great and mine is at the moment perfect. Just dont know what to do so much.

[BobbyR]

You caould try to rent it for Section 8, the welfare people pay you the rent and that may cover your loan. Really, it is hard to live in a combat zone. Maybe that is the way out, cleanly. 

[Goober]

Thing is the house is part way through a remodel. When i bought it, it needed a bit of work and a lot of damage was hidden. I put a new roof first thing. Then i started tracking down damaged siding. A whole corner of one of the bedrooms was rotten, And next to the chimney is rotten. And under about 6 of the windows are rotten out. I dont have the money at the moment to at least fix it up enough to be rentable because i have been out of work for about 6 months.

[BobbyR]

Thing is the house is part way through a remodel. When i bought it, it needed a bit of work and a lot of damage was hidden. I put a new roof first thing. Then i started tracking down damaged siding. A whole corner of one of the bedrooms was rotten, And next to the chimney is rotten. And under about 6 of the windows are rotten out. I dont have the money at the moment to at least fix it up enough to be rentable because i have been out of work for about 6 months.

Look into renting it to the welfare people, the homeless are not picky. And u getthe rent directly

[Logan80]

This story is a big extreme of course, but this is what happened in my city 21 years ago when the "thugs" got a little out of line...

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2009/09/27/895048/ash-street-shootout-the-night.html

[dave500]

places do change for the better,like when eventually hoodlums get locked up or just grow out of it or get killed or move on themselves,for peace of mind try placing a fake but realistic "sold" sign in your front yard for a month or two.

[WilliamA]

I am proud of you for standing up to the thugs.
If I were you I would find me another house to purchase.
I would get a home improvement loan on the house you are in and us that money as down payment on the new house.
After that I would try to rent the house you are in as long as possible and if you can't, let it go back.
It will hurt your credit but you will already have your other house.
Until the time you can get out of there I would get a good guard dog, hand guns and some electric fencing ( a good jolt will send most of the bad guys running)

[dave500]

dogs are poisoned too easy,why have a dog you need not love,you cant just get guns and shoot people,i hope it all turns out "normal " for you.

[BobbyR]

I am proud of you for standing up to the thugs.
If I were you I would find me another house to purchase.
I would get a home improvement loan on the house you are in and us that money as down payment on the new house.
After that I would try to rent the house you are in as long as possible and if you can't, let it go back.
It will hurt your credit but you will already have your other house.
Until the time you can get out of there I would get a good guard dog, hand guns and some electric fencing ( a good jolt will send most of the bad guys running)

It is a bit Shady but William has a point. If you can find a shady mortgage broker, between you and your GF you may be able to leverage this place for another place. Then you let this one go. You do not deserve to live in a bunker. You can rebuild our credit and live your life in peace. Well, you will have other things to worry about    

[Industrial Cafe]

have you tried getting renegade to help out?


he looks better in a shirtless vest than me and 77cafe750 combined.

or the A-team... apparently they've gone green.

[Industrial Cafe]

or you could join the gang.

I have no idea what I'm doing in this thread.

[Terry in Australia]

or you could join the gang.

That's a great idea mate, he could join the gang, and offer up his house as the gang's new club house, brilliant!

[74cb750]

Amazing how we members are such fonts of wisdom. 

[Industrial Cafe]

Amazing how we members are such fonts of wisdom.  

we're wingdings  






ok, I think I'm done

[Goober]

lol you guys are great ...


Well i talked to my parents about letting me come home for a short bit. I really really hate to do that. But its for the better. And have a real estate agent coming out monday to appraise and get a short sale on the table.

[Goober]

Well just an update..Some will get a kick out of this. Just got a call from real estate agent today. so funny. My house in 2005 appraised for 98k. city appraised it for taxes at like 70k+ or something like that. Real estate agent called and said the lucky number this time was 35k bahahahhahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha. That is hilarious to me for some reason hahaha.

[rhos1355]

Just a thought; are any of these gang members muslims? If so you need to call Traveller in...........he reckons he can sort them out in no time

[dave500]

Just a thought; are any of these gang members muslims? If so you need to call Traveller in...........he reckons he can sort them out in no time

throw a ham sandwich at them?

[traveler]

You really screwed yourself when you interjected yourself into their situation, and escalated it with the gun.

Think what you will about me, but when I pull a gun, it's only when I intend to use it.

Cut your losses and get out of that neighborhood.

~Joe

[swan]

Invite your regional outlaw biker gang over for a free keg of beer and BBQ and have them meet your neighbors.

[Coyote13]

Invite your regional outlaw biker gang over for a free keg of beer and BBQ and have them meet your neighbors.

This ^^^


Seriously. Gang members may be ignorant, and they may be looking for trouble, but they aren't tryin to start a war with a bunch of hard-nosed biker types. Get involved in a local riders' group (not a biker gang of course, unless you're so inclined) and set up a wrenching day/BBQ/G2G at your place. Try to make an occasional deal out of it and you can guarantee those thugs will stay away from you.