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Offline 73nancy

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after market reg/rec location help
« on: September 19, 2010, 04:51:53 PM »
 hey guys i need help figuring out where to put my new reg/rec unit on my k1 750.  it cant go in stock location and im wondering where some of you guys run yours who have after market units. need to find a spot soon got a show coming up. thanks again ryan
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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 03:36:31 PM »
bump for some help must be someone who put one of these on their bike?
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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 06:05:18 PM »
Put mine on a custom battery tray I made. Dont have any pics, but I can say somewhere where it wont get too hot. Other than that I dont think it really matters.

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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 08:47:25 AM »
does it need to be grounded to what ever its bolted to cause i was thinking of putting it on a frame tube with some sort of clamp
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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 09:00:59 AM »
 Is yours  a combo unit? Go to Oregon Motorcycle Parts site, I think they have photos of that kind of unit installed on bikes there.

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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2010, 05:28:51 PM »
its a combo from oregon motorcycle but i never saw pics on the web page and i emailed them and nothing back..
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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 03:13:36 PM »
I know this post is over six months. Old. But that's perfect. I need a new re. an I was hoping that u would give a review. Is your charging system more stable, can u run your bike with the head light on permanently. Are u running a H4 bulb. And any one else have a comment please speak up. Thanx brent.

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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 04:45:35 AM »
The maximum power output from an alternator is a function of its design: the magnetic flux strength sweeping the output coil, the number of wire turns on that coil, and the wire gauge of that coil. The induced field alternators on our bikes use electricity to generate the magnetic field via the field coil - this electricity is controlled by the regulator to vary the alternator's output power.
No replacement regulator can put more electricity into the field coil than the stock regulator. Period.
So no replacement regulator can give you more alternator power than the stock regulator does. Period.
The Oregon unit works fine. It does the job of controlling system voltage and charging the battery correctly... IF the rest of the system is in good shape.
Most charging problems are caused by one or both of two things:
1 - degraded wiring harness. The connectors and fuse/switch contacts corrode and acquire a bit of resistance. This lowers the system voltage. The lower system voltage can not produce as strong a magnetic field from the field coil and that reduces alternator power output.
2 - Too much load. There's a maximum alternator power for each model's design. Add H4 lights, running lights, radio, heated grips, heated vest... and the load power gets to or above the alternator's maximum output power. This doesn't kill the bike: load power drops rapidly as voltage drops but the alternator output power drops less quickly (load power goes down exponentially while the field strength goes down linearly). These will equal and the system will settle at a lower voltage than what will charge the battery. You can ride around fine but the  battery won't charge... so eventually the starter won't spin and your lights will be a bit dim, horn weak, and flashers slow.
SO a new regulator is not a magic bullet to fix your charging woes. The stock regulator rarely fails. It's easy to test it, not so easy to adjust (it although such adjustment is attempted rather often, usually with poor results).

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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2011, 05:40:43 PM »
Thanks for the reply, I gess I should have elaborated on my bike. It was a decked cb550 that I've brought back from the dead. The previous owner had replaced the separate reg/rec with a com o unit off a yamaha of some kind. Anyway I'm only getting 12.4 volts at the battery at 2000 rpm an up. I was thinking the Honda should be charging at 13.5 to 14 witch would be amazing

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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 06:14:20 PM »
The maximum power output from an alternator is a function of its design: the magnetic flux strength sweeping the output coil, the number of wire turns on that coil, and the wire gauge of that coil. The induced field alternators on our bikes use electricity to generate the magnetic field via the field coil - this electricity is controlled by the regulator to vary the alternator's output power.
No replacement regulator can put more electricity into the field coil than the stock regulator. Period.
So no replacement regulator can give you more alternator power than the stock regulator does. Period.
The Oregon unit works fine. It does the job of controlling system voltage and charging the battery correctly... IF the rest of the system is in good shape.
Most charging problems are caused by one or both of two things:
1 - degraded wiring harness. The connectors and fuse/switch contacts corrode and acquire a bit of resistance. This lowers the system voltage. The lower system voltage can not produce as strong a magnetic field from the field coil and that reduces alternator power output.
2 - Too much load. There's a maximum alternator power for each model's design. Add H4 lights, running lights, radio, heated grips, heated vest... and the load power gets to or above the alternator's maximum output power. This doesn't kill the bike: load power drops rapidly as voltage drops but the alternator output power drops less quickly (load power goes down exponentially while the field strength goes down linearly). These will equal and the system will settle at a lower voltage than what will charge the battery. You can ride around fine but the  battery won't charge... so eventually the starter won't spin and your lights will be a bit dim, horn weak, and flashers slow.
SO a new regulator is not a magic bullet to fix your charging woes. The stock regulator rarely fails. It's easy to test it, not so easy to adjust (it although such adjustment is attempted rather often, usually with poor results).
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Re: after market reg/rec location help
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 08:58:55 PM »
+1 on enjoying these type of posts...but I just finished adjusting my voltage regulator, and substituting a 750 rectifier unit on the 550.  Voltage/current outputs now are close to the specs in the manual.  Should I now go back and clean/check all the connections and adjust it again?
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