Topic: WTF? how to kill a counter shaft seal on a cb500. UPDATE

[domer]

so i have been chasing down a nasty oil leak, ive done it all... oil pump, oil pressure switch, shifter seal, neutral switch, oil pan o-ring. and for the life of me i couldnt get it to stop. instead it got much worse. so i finally get to pulling the front sprocket so as to check the counter shaft (am i using the right terminology here?) and to my suprise i find this #$%*er

  
  
it managed to work its way under the seal... a friggin plastic bag. couldnt have been there to long, i changed the chain about 6 weeks ago and havent put much mileage on her due to the leak. so woo #$%*ing hoo, wish me luck, as i havent heard of to many success storys with this seal!

*update*
so i got the seal out, not very easy, but it came out. and to my suprise, i found more of the #$%*ing bag under the seal. then more of it between the bearing and the counter shaft. i started to pull some of it out, but of course im not going to get it all out. no the question of the day, am i #$%*ed? should i just run it and pray?

[scunny]

#$%*e, good luck. theres a post somewhere of someone doing it in place with success.

[L.A. Nomad........]

Don't use the wood screw method! I did and screwed in the metal bearing ball retainer and pulled both seal and retainer out! .. FAIL.... Use a metal hook with handle!

L.A. Nomad

[drones76]

Don't use the wood screw method! I did and screwed in the metal bearing ball retainer and pulled both seal and retainer out! .. FAIL.... Use a metal hook with handle!

L.A. Nomad

I have not done that exact seal, but I would recommend using two hooks.  One on each side and wiggle it out slowly. 

[scottly]

Have you tried to work the plastic out of the seal? Maybe unwinding it in a counter-clockwise direction? The seal itself may be OK.

[domer]

ya, tried getting the bag off carefully... fired it up.... and yup, it leaks. pretty bad too. i just spent an hour going through the parts fiche. cant find this seal for the life of me. anyone got the part number? bryanj? scottly?

[dave500]

91205-283-015 its also listed as 33x57x7 if you can find one at your local bearing service.

[domer]

91205-283-015 its also listed as 33x57x7 if you can find one at your local bearing service.

Much appreciated!

[domer]

HELP!!!

[dave500]

you can drop the pan and see if any of the plastic bag can be gotten at from there,look close dont just tear at it you might be able to wind shafts over a bit and retrieve more of it that way.,id try and get it all out,it might not hurt hard parts like gears but if it gets sucked into the oil pump it could be dodgy.unlucky fluke of a thing!

[hummbug]

I just ordered that same genuine seal from mrcycles.

[domer]

you can drop the pan and see if any of the plastic bag can be gotten at from there,look close dont just tear at it you might be able to wind shafts over a bit and retrieve more of it that way.,id try and get it all out,it might not hurt hard parts like gears but if it gets sucked into the oil pump it could be dodgy.unlucky fluke of a thing!

ya thats what i thought... i think unlucky is an understatement. i manage to pick up a plastic bag in a city thats almost completely banned plastic bags. cross your fingers for me!

[dave500]

i was driving with my wife the other day and i picked up a bag so i thought under the car,i saw it go under but not come out the rear,i was thinking it got stuck on the extractors and might catch fire,i could hear it dragging on the ground,it was caught on the sill chrome trim.damn bags,not my wife !!!!

[domer]

well lucky me, i got all the bag out. woo-hoo. and the new seal went in with ease. Now i read somewhere on hear that this should have had a lip for the seal. but i found the opposite, mine has a chamfer? opinions? i ordered 2 seals thinkin it was gonna be challenging, but it was easier than the shifter seal!

Dave500, i know about bags and exhaust! my dad has an old porsche 930 with a chevy 350 crammed in it, crazy exhaust system on it that we call the bag catcher, and when you do catch a bag its usually pull over and have a beer cause its gonna stink for a while! glad you missed that one!