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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2010, 12:02:05 AM »
Really good idea. :o Thanks for sharing will try it.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2010, 02:49:19 AM »
Good point about riding away from the sun and being extra careful about the oncoming cars who are blinded! Thanks
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2010, 08:45:46 PM »
Gaither, I have made some that fit the whole faceshield. That way if you are riding on a sunny day and don't get back before sunset, just peel it off for night riding. Always have a couple of spares in case you are riding with a friend who could use one. Took the first ride today on my 76 750F that I have been working on for 9 months. Love the bike.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2010, 09:39:42 PM »
Roadkng

Nine months! Glad you got 'er going. You must have "done a number" on your 750. You should post some pics.

I enjoy the 550. Finally got the kinks out of 'er - thanks to Two-Tired and some other great guys here (I have a terrible time with names). Without their help, I had a 428 lb paperweight. She's running great now!

Thank for your offer. When the sunshield arrives, I'm gonna get some material and make a few - for the buddies you mentioned. You've got a great idea here.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 06:25:17 AM »
Take a look at the Airoh TR1,  not cheap by any means, but light, confortable, double visor feature, removable chin guard, good ventilation, and safe.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 09:01:50 PM »
Gaither, will post some pics soon. Bike was a total rust bucket when I started, but only had 19.000 miles on it. Lots of elbow grease, paint and a few replacement chrome parts and it really looks great. I started working on it 9 months ago, but was still working. Retired late spring and have more time to work on it. I am starting a rework on two (81/82) Honda GL 500 Silverwings. Girlfriend wants her own bike.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2010, 05:30:15 PM »
Roadkng

Please do post some pics with some details on your restoration. All of us enjoy seeing other's accomplishments as we all keep "Riding into the sun".

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2010, 08:43:54 PM »
They say at the track, if you got a cheap head wear a cheap helmet.
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2010, 10:23:07 AM »
Hey guys here is that website that i was talking about with helmet shield that darkens in sunlight and turns back to clear when i starts getting dark. Right know they only ones for certin helmets so you would just ahve to see if it would fit your helmet. http://www.shieldtechllc.com/products_powersports-visors.php
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2010, 06:32:06 PM »
Funny I was just thinking about this today.
I really want to get a jet pilot's helmet with the flip down visors. I think that would look pretty badass.
Anyone know if there's a DOT approved option?

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2010, 07:11:43 PM »
Funny I was just thinking about this today.
I really want to get a jet pilot's helmet with the flip down visors. I think that would look pretty badass.
Anyone know if there's a DOT approved option?

this is approved by whatever the european equivalent to the DOT is. i have a hard time believing their standards are any worse than our DOT standards are. in any event it's the helmet i'm buying.


http://www.icasque.com/Casque-moto/Jet/Bumper/

here are a bunch more. why are all of the cool helmets everywhere else but here?

http://www.trendsforyou.de/jethelme-versand_2779.html

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2010, 05:33:41 AM »
This is a great solution!

http://www.super-visor.com/
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2010, 06:01:03 AM »
this is approved by whatever the european equivalent to the DOT is. i have a hard time believing their standards are any worse than our DOT standards are. in any event it's the helmet i'm buying.


http://www.icasque.com/Casque-moto/Jet/Bumper/

here are a bunch more. why are all of the cool helmets everywhere else but here?

http://www.trendsforyou.de/jethelme-versand_2779.html

Woah those are sweet! That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.
Too bad they're not DOT approved.

Now where to get a bomber-style jacket that's also ok to ride in...

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2010, 06:10:59 AM »
Even with a tinted shield, riding directly into the sun is likely not going to offer much visibility.  What you have to do is shade the eyes from the sunlight, and even in an auto with sunshades that is often not possible to do.  On a motorcycle, unless you hold up your hand or have a peak visor of the right size and location, it isn't an option.  You did the correct thing by pulling off and waiting.

As mentioned by others there are numerous models of helmets on the market, that have a flip-up/down shield that is tinted.  Most of them seem to be a flip-up design like the Nolan, which I find very convenient when wearing prescription glasses.  I actually have a model (not Nolan) with the tinted visor that is movable, and it is very handy for sunny days. (Nice to flip going in and out of shade.  Also don't need to carry another shield or change to sunglasses.)

BTW - Don't buy a non-approved helmet.  Your head is more valuable and they are illegal to use on the roads of Ontario and anywhere else requiring a helmet.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2010, 06:47:08 AM »
...only motorcycle helmets that are DOT, Snell, BSI, or CSA approved are legal in Ontario.

DOT - A standard specification developed back in the 1970's (or even 1960's perhaps) by the US Department of Transport.  Manufacturers or importers of helmets are responsible for labeling and certifying compliance.  No actual testing is really required, but the DOT will examine and test helmets on a yearly basis and note ones that do not comply, probably insisting that they be withdrawn.

Snell - A private organization that develops standards for helmets and tests them for compliance.  New standards are written every five years and to test a helmet and gain compliance sticker for labeling, the manufacturer pays the organization.  All race bodies in North America require that helmets worn during race events - be Snell approved.  One of the current tests is for chin protection, such that only full-face helmets can be approved.  The flip design of helmet so-far do not have strong enough latching mechanisms to be able to pass this test.

BSI - The British Standards Institute used to have standards (probably still do) that covered helmets.  This type of helmet was sometimes imported into Ontario and sold.  I haven't seen one in years.

CSA - The Canadian Standards Association has all kinds of standards - but none for motorcycle helmets.  When they do and if manufacturers produce helmets that follow, then they will be acceptable under the law.  For now, CSA has standards and helmets exist for hockey, bicycles, and skiing - but none of those helmets are acceptable or legal for use on a motorcycle.

ECE - The Economic Community of Europe has standards for motorcycle helmets that are sold and used in those countries.  (I believe it has supplanted the BSI standard these days.)  Helmets that meet this standard will very easily meet the DOT standard, but unless they are properly labeled as such (by the manufacturer or importer) - they are not legal to use on the road.  Some track events in North America will allow their use in place of a Snell-approved helmet, but that's in recognition of world-wide racing.  There currently is a debate over the effectiveness of the Snell standards vs the latest ECE standards. (Specifically, is the Snell standard demanding too hard an impact resistance vs allowing softer absorption of blows?)

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2010, 08:12:06 AM »
In the olden days I used a 3/4 helmet that had a visor attached to the front.  Not a long, MX visor, but a shorter one.  It worked well for blocking a low Sun.  Today I use a full face helmet so yeah, the Sun can be a PITA.  I have prescription polarized sunglasses that help a lot, and clip-on sunglass lenses that can add additional darkness.
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2010, 09:22:45 AM »
this is approved by whatever the european equivalent to the DOT is. i have a hard time believing their standards are any worse than our DOT standards are. in any event it's the helmet i'm buying.


http://www.icasque.com/Casque-moto/Jet/Bumper/

here are a bunch more. why are all of the cool helmets everywhere else but here?

http://www.trendsforyou.de/jethelme-versand_2779.html

Woah those are sweet! That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.
Too bad they're not DOT approved.

Now where to get a bomber-style jacket that's also ok to ride in...

they are all legal helmets in europe so i'ts not the same as the $24 chinese helmet, theses are real helmets. i'd be interested to know if anyone here has ever been ticketed for the type of helmet they have on, or even know of anyone ticketed for a non DOT helmet. i would not wear a helmet that was more of a toy that real protection but helmets that are legal in europe are as safe as the helmets sold here, that DOT sticker is certainly not a magical talisman against injury.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2010, 09:33:56 AM »

they are all legal helmets in europe so i'ts not the same as the $24 chinese helmet, theses are real helmets. i'd be interested to know if anyone here has ever been ticketed for the type of helmet they have on, or even know of anyone ticketed for a non DOT helmet. i would not wear a helmet that was more of a toy that real protection but helmets that are legal in europe are as safe as the helmets sold here, that DOT sticker is certainly not a magical talisman against injury.

I looked up the helmet. It's made by Shark, so I'm pretty sure they're DOT approved. They make some really nice helmets. I'd much rather have one from them than a bulky HJC.

http://www.shark-helmets.com/product.php?sous_gamme=SK%20by%20SHARK&gamme=The%20SHARK%20Urban%20range&code_gamme=URBAN_RANGE&code_sous_gamme=SKbySHARK


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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2010, 05:50:45 AM »
i'd be interested to know if anyone here has ever been ticketed for the type of helmet they have on, or even know of anyone ticketed for a non DOT helmet.

I have heard of riders in Ontario being stopped, checked, and ticketed for helmet violations.  (For instance, I've been to ride cruise-ins where there were police spot-checks at the exits - mainly checking for alcohol consumption and licensing.)  With a ticket for non-approved helmet, the rider is made to either park the bike and get a proper helmet to retrieve the vehicle, or the bike is impounded.

In teaching new riders for their motorcycle license, our group insists that the riders must always be wearing an approved helmet.  There was one instance where we denied a student to bring and use a helmet purchased from Europe over the internet, because it lacked any DOT labeling and only had the ECE stickers - even though the same model was available on the market here with the proper labeling.  I would expect there are law enforcement officers who would also be so strict to the law.

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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2010, 07:38:41 AM »
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... and noticed that the pilots had flip down visors on the outside of their helmets for the same problem. I wondered if visors like this were available for bikers?
My Schuberth has a flip down visor on the inside of the helmet. You can bring it any position by sliding a switch on the side of the helmet. Very convenient.
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2010, 09:00:07 AM »
I just got a new HJC IS-16 that has a flip down sun visor inside the face shield, works great.
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Re: Riding into the sun
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2010, 09:10:48 AM »
i'd be interested to know if anyone here has ever been ticketed for the type of helmet they have on, or even know of anyone ticketed for a non DOT helmet.

I have heard of riders in Ontario being stopped, checked, and ticketed for helmet violations.  (For instance, I've been to ride cruise-ins where there were police spot-checks at the exits - mainly checking for alcohol consumption and licensing.)  With a ticket for non-approved helmet, the rider is made to either park the bike and get a proper helmet to retrieve the vehicle, or the bike is impounded.

In teaching new riders for their motorcycle license, our group insists that the riders must always be wearing an approved helmet.  There was one instance where we denied a student to bring and use a helmet purchased from Europe over the internet, because it lacked any DOT labeling and only had the ECE stickers - even though the same model was available on the market here with the proper labeling.  I would expect there are law enforcement officers who would also be so strict to the law.



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