Topic: A little tidbit from the latest WikiLeaks

[Bob Wessner]

That's what I'm wondering. I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a multi-national, coordinated denial of service attack in the works. 

[Retro Rocket]

I really think that The people effected by this release should pull their heads in and look at improving the way they do business, Assange has broken no laws and is operating the way most good investigative reporters work, the detractors are making themselves look worse and want this covered up like the information that has already been released, its the caught in the cookie jar syndrome and the way they are all complaining makes them all look worse, i can't believe some retired politician in the US wants him dead.....pathetic...

Mick

[Bob Wessner]

Actually, I haven't yet made up my mind about the little venture. At this point my interest is more in some of the technical consequences.

[Retro Rocket]

Actually, I haven't yet made up my mind about the little venture. At this point my interest is more in some of the technical consequences.

I don't know about you Bob but i like to be informed not have my head buried in the sand by my own Government, where's the freedom in that.? Mass censorship is the breeding ground for corruption we are in a "need to know" environment, and apparently we are the ones that don't need to know. Watching all these politicians squirm has been a highlight and it is showing just how out of touch they are by trying to criminalise instead of apologise and lift their game. They have been caught with their collective hands in the cookie jar and they don't like it one little bit....

Mick

[BeSeeingYou]

What I don't understand is why does Wikileaks decide to "dump" this information when a considerable amount of it is benign gossip.  Why not take stories like the one that srust58 opened with and actually do some serious investigative reporting?  Instead, the story becomes about the "dump," not about the content.  The content gets swept under the rug, American's grumble about it, and NOTHING is ever done about any of the corruption.  

Honestly, it's a little frustrating that Assange wants to be taken seriously in his work, but the bulk of his work gets reported as news bites such as, "Sarkozy is a 'thin-skinned, authoritarian' man prone to making 'impulsive proposals.'"  That's what's being reported, not the fact that we are funding a war and selling guns to people who are funding the people shooting at us.  I think Assange is a bit arrogant and self serving.  Instead of diplomatic gossip, blow some lids.  

   While Assange does have his issues like you state he does not have the resources to investigate these issues.  Wikileaks is more of a conduit for the information provided by insiders or others.  That's why it is difficult to go after him legally.  He is putting it out there for the news organizations to do the investigative work but being the corporate shills that they are they no longer do that sort of thing unless it involves Bristol Palin on Dancing with the Stars.  Even if there was an investigations of some of the issues exposed what would become of it?  Americans as a whole have little interest in what their country does in their name around the world.  
    I enjoy the spectacle of politicians, CEO's, military top brass, diplomats, etc exposed with their pants down around their knees. Although they all scream "national security" when it happens the republic and the public still goes about their business without a hiccup.  I think it's good for democracy and applaud what Assange has done.
    Several days ago there was an editorial from a major newspaper in the Middles East that basically said " So what, much of this is not news to us.  It's the ignorant and apathetic American public that seems so surprised and shocked by this".  

[BeSeeingYou]

Actually, I haven't yet made up my mind about the little venture. At this point my interest is more in some of the technical consequences.

I don't know about you Bob but i like to be informed not have my head buried in the sand by my own Government, where's the freedom in that.? Mass censorship is the breeding ground for corruption we are in a "need to know" environment, and apparently we are the ones that don't need to know. Watching all these politicians squirm has been a highlight and it is showing just how out of touch they are by trying to criminalise instead of apologise and lift their game. They have been caught with their collective hands in the cookie jar and they don't like it one little bit....

Mick

+1

[coldright]

What I don't understand is why does Wikileaks decide to "dump" this information when a considerable amount of it is benign gossip.  Why not take stories like the one that srust58 opened with and actually do some serious investigative reporting?  Instead, the story becomes about the "dump," not about the content.  The content gets swept under the rug, American's grumble about it, and NOTHING is ever done about any of the corruption.  

Honestly, it's a little frustrating that Assange wants to be taken seriously in his work, but the bulk of his work gets reported as news bites such as, "Sarkozy is a 'thin-skinned, authoritarian' man prone to making 'impulsive proposals.'"  That's what's being reported, not the fact that we are funding a war and selling guns to people who are funding the people shooting at us.  I think Assange is a bit arrogant and self serving.  Instead of diplomatic gossip, blow some lids.  

   While Assange does have his issues like you state he does not have the resources to investigate these issues.  Wikileaks is more of a conduit for the information provided by insiders or others.  That's why it is difficult to go after him legally.  He is putting it out there for the news organizations to do the investigative work but being the corporate shills that they are they no longer do that sort of thing unless it involves Bristol Palin on Dancing with the Stars.  Even if there was an investigations of some of the issues exposed what would become of it?  Americans as a whole have little interest in what their country does in their name around the world.  
    I enjoy the spectacle of politicians, CEO's, military top brass, diplomats, etc exposed with their pants down around their knees. Although they all scream "national security" when it happens the republic and the public still goes about their business without a hiccup.  I think it's good for democracy and applaud what Assange has done.
    Several days ago there was an editorial from a major newspaper in the Middles East that basically said " So what, much of this is not news to us.  It's the ignorant and apathetic American public that seems so surprised or shocked by this".  

I am hopeful that it will help move things in the right direction and than there will be some serious inquiry to the most troubling of leaks. 

[Grnrngr]

I think I've figured out what to do about the one that bothered me the most...I'm gonna have to become an eccentric dictator so I can find me a hot blond voluptuous nurse!!

[Retro Rocket]

I am hopeful that it will help move things in the right direction and than there will be some serious inquiry to the most troubling of leaks.

Sorry to be pessimistic Carrie but i think they will try and find a way to prosecute {persecute} Assange and it will all just go away.....Nice and convenient don't you think.....

Mick