Author Topic: 1982 Suzuki GS1100ES (Read 43751 times)

seaweb11 · « **Reply #150 on:** February 07, 2011, 07:40:22 PM »

It fricken pissed me off today

Put in new battery and sorted the signal connections. Except they don't blink

Went to check the starter

I disassembled and cleaned the clutch switch during the winter so I checked it. It was giving power to the switch when it was static, and power would go off in the bucket when pulled.......seemed wrong.

I reversed the switch mechanism and had power at the bucket with it pulled in now

Still no go

I had disconnected the spring from the side stand switch, so it should not have been in the equation.

Color blind madness again

theofam · « **Reply #151 on:** February 08, 2011, 01:46:04 PM »

That's frustrating, but you'll get it nailed down and, in another week or two, it won't be a big deal. Keep chuggin', it's looking VERY nice!

somesuch · « **Reply #152 on:** February 08, 2011, 01:56:35 PM »

Quote from: seaweb11 on November 05, 2010, 06:04:48 PM

I have looked at a couple of on-line manuals, but can't figure out what these are for?
Looks like 2 sets of bolt threads are on the top, so something missing? A cap of some sort? I would like to remove them but don't want fork oil all over the floor if that's what it involves

I have removed the brakes, fender and wheel and would like to continue the tear down.

In case you are still interested, I just got a pair of very nice block-off plates from a guy at tkat.com He does not list them on his website, but he does have them. I put them on my '82 Katana, now I need them for my '83 GS1100esd

--Nick

somesuch · « **Reply #153 on:** February 08, 2011, 02:02:30 PM »

He also is working a nice billet fork brace for our bikes. I have one of his first ones on the Katana. If it make the same difference on the Katana as it made on my XS11 I will be very happy

The guys quality is very good, but you may have to wait, depending on how busy he is. That's the only downside.

--Nick

seaweb11 · « **Reply #154 on:** February 10, 2011, 04:47:28 PM »

The old exhaust gaskets are really set in place, any tricks to getting them out.
They are quite different from our SOHC copper ones?

seaweb11 · « **Reply #155 on:** February 10, 2011, 04:57:54 PM »

Never mind..........Blow torch was the answer

Carbs and filter box all installed, working on exhaust instal and 1st start up.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #156 on:** February 10, 2011, 09:17:48 PM »

Carbsbackon by seaweb, on Flickr

seaweb11 · « **Reply #157 on:** February 11, 2011, 05:28:41 PM »

Today was supposed to be the day to install the new Mac 4-2 and get it running. Wrong

Apparently they made a 2 valve and a 4 valve version of this bike?
The Mac system is for the 4 valve and mine of course is a 2 valve

Not to be deterred I started it anyway

Choke was full on, thus the sputter when I went to use the throttle, and yes that was an exhaust gasket that flew out

There was one other oddity in the start up, anyone notice........

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #158 on:** February 11, 2011, 06:07:27 PM »

Are you sure on the 2 valve thing Derek, as far as i know and definitely on all Aussie models, they had 4 valves per cylinder on that engine .

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100es%2083.htm

This is the same bike with full fairing and it is 4 valve.
And this one is of your bike...4 valve...

http://www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS1100E.shtml

Mick

seaweb11 · « **Reply #159 on:** February 11, 2011, 06:30:30 PM »

I hear you. But the bolt flanges were in the wrong place. The holes did not and never would line up.

This is the one I just sent back. http://www.nichecycle.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=003-0609&type=0&eq=&desc=Suzuki-GS750-GS1100-81-84-4-Valve-TSCC

I'm so lost. How many versions of this did they make? .......rhetorical question

Now what do I use?

My vin is JS1GU73A I just did a google search and came up with this. http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Suzuki_GS1100E

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #160 on:** February 11, 2011, 06:46:35 PM »

I used to work at a bike shop in Sydney in the 80's and we were a Suzuki dealership as well and as far as i am aware, all the suzuki's with the TSCC {twin swirl combustion chamber} engine or the engine that had the Rectangular end caps on the cam cover were all 4 valve, thats why the drag racers loved them and still do, the earlier GS models with the round end caps were 2 valve. In Australia , England and most of Europe your model was the GSX1100 Es..

Mick

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #161 on:** February 11, 2011, 06:49:29 PM »

It's a "4 valve" engine Derek, and the (possible) reason you can't crack the throttle open is that the Suzuki CV carbs are very sensitive to air/fuel mixture changes, so if you've removed the airbox and filter (or worse, fitted "pods") the best you can hope for is for it to idle, but die under load/accelleration. Cheers, Terry.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #162 on:** February 11, 2011, 06:58:33 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 11, 2011, 06:49:29 PM

It's a "4 valve" engine Derek, and the (possible) reason you can't crack the throttle open is that the Suzuki CV carbs are very sensitive to air/fuel mixture changes, so if you've removed the airbox and filter (or worse, fitted "pods") the best you can hope for is for it to idle, but die under load/accelleration. Cheers, Terry.

New air filter, cleaned box, new clamps and completely stock, the choke was full on and I haven't set the carbs yet

I'm sure once I put some pipes on it and let it warm up I will have better luck.

We can all now agree that it is a 4 valve, and also that the Mac they sent me would not fit, so back to the drawing board I guess.
Thanks for your help guys.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #163 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:00:13 PM »

No worries Derek, its looking good mate.....Don't forget to post pics of the smile on your face after the first ride mate...

Just thinking, to avoid drama with the company that sold you the wrong pipe, include a side on pic of your bike with your email so they can clearly see that you have the later 4 valve engine.....

Mick

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #164 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:11:38 PM »

That's good Derek, I imagine that you've already checked your carb diaphragms and rubber manifolds and "O" rings, because it appears that your engine is sucking lots of air, and not much fuel.

It's not just the lack of an exhaust system, when I brought my Yoshimura equipped GS1000 (2 valve) the rusted out Yoshi pipe fell to pieces as soon as I fired it up, but I was still able to ride it around my back yard (and in my street) with no exhaust system fitted. Cheers, Terry.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #165 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:32:20 PM »

I completely rebuilt the carbs including all O-rings, the diaphragms were in good shape.
Yeah, I will call the guy again tomorrow and be sure to email him my bolt patterns.

pdxPope · « **Reply #166 on:** February 12, 2011, 07:51:20 AM »

Quote

the choke was full on

Mine bogs pretty good when cold with full choke, too. It should be better when it's warm.

Sounds pretty good, though!

-JP

seaweb11 · « **Reply #167 on:** February 13, 2011, 01:51:09 PM »

I installed the old system today with the holes in the mufflers and it warmed up and with throttle sounded good.

Now I'm thinking of just cutting the mufflers off the old system, getting it sand blasted and adding a couple of aftermarket mufflers.
I found this today http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-YAMAHA-SUZUKI-CHROME-MOTORCYCLE-MUFFLER-EXHAUST-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb148ef88QQitemZ200542842760QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_4693wt_1167

Any one have a better idea for after market 2" connector muffler?

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #168 on:** February 13, 2011, 02:04:22 PM »

Pity you couldn't get a cheap 4into1 for it, those engines sound great through a 4-1....
What are your plans for it once built.? Great bike to chew up miles on....

Mick

seaweb11 · « **Reply #169 on:** February 13, 2011, 02:23:55 PM »

I want a 4-2 to get the $100.00 per year antique stock insurance.
A buddy suggested I just paint over the rust and put these back on to take the 4 antique plate photos and then remove them later.

seaweb11 · « **Reply #170 on:** February 13, 2011, 04:50:33 PM »

On the good side of things...... A bike mechanic "non color blind" friend of mine dropped by today and help me sort the last of my headlight bucket wiring issues

It starts with the start switch / clutch lever properly, it runs, everything functions.......so I'm pulling up my old friend here again

Just waiting on a couple of front brake parts to finish.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #171 on:** February 13, 2011, 04:56:21 PM »

Great news!

pdxPope · « **Reply #172 on:** February 14, 2011, 05:12:21 PM »

+10000

Can't wait to hear the first ride report!

-JP

seaweb11 · « **Reply #173 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:49:15 PM »

When in Vancouver yesterday I went to an old bike shop and found the same Mac exhaust in a box that I had just shipped back to FL.
The engine mounting flanges were loose and spun around easily, so I called Mac and told them about the system I received with the flanges "welded" to the pipes in the wrong direction. He immediately said just hit the flanges to loosen them up, they get stuck on sometimes when the chrome is applied.

I said to him you should tell all your dealers this trick so people don't ship them back after talking with the company they bought them from!

I called the dealer who said, sorry if you want them, you will have to pay shipping again....for the 3rd time @ $65.00 per trip.

I called Mac back and told them their dealer told me to go pound sand on the shipping cost to get them back to me.
He said he would try and see if Mac would pay to get them to me. Waiting on a call.

I did tap the flanges a bit with a rubber mallet, but I didn't want to break them if I was going to have to send them back.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #174 on:** February 17, 2011, 12:05:50 AM »

I knew there was something not quite right..Hope you get it sorted out without costing you anything....Although i doubt it....

Mick

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