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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #700 on: August 21, 2015, 06:08:30 AM »
Here’s my rebuilt Tokico 1 caliper.  They were used on the early sandcasts. 


Here’s a close up of the name.


Here’s a shot of the back side.


Note the knurled head screws and the long center rib (which extends down close to the pin on the brake pad) which are both characteristics of the early caliper.

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #701 on: August 21, 2015, 06:14:37 AM »
I also got my final drive flange assembly done.


It has the early 45 tooth sprocket.


Here’s a shot of the back side.


The early sandcasts have “8” head bolts for fastening the sprocket.

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #702 on: August 21, 2015, 09:05:03 AM »
Good work as always Mark...  Do you have an estimated time of completion?....Larry

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #703 on: August 21, 2015, 09:18:03 AM »
Mark,

Crazy attention to detail.  Question: are you going 100% accurate on the restoration? As in ball bearings in the steering head, too?
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #704 on: August 23, 2015, 10:51:24 AM »
Good work as always Mark...  Do you have an estimated time of completion?....Larry
Thanks.  I'm hoping to have it put together by this fall so I can at least run it.  It may not be completely correct but I can clean up some details over the winter.

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Crazy attention to detail.  Question: are you going 100% accurate on the restoration? As in ball bearings in the steering head, too?
I am going for as accurate as possible and yes the balls in the steering head are exactly like original.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #705 on: September 16, 2015, 05:24:46 PM »
Here’s a shot of my oil lines before working on them.  I would like be able save them since they are the original rubber lines.  Whether or not they will leak is yet to be seen.


Here is after working on them.  I flushed them out good and dragged a wire through with a bit of cloth on it.  That was a little tricky with the corners but internally I think they’re pretty clean.  Then I cleaned them up on the outside.  I wire brushed the aluminum and then used aluminum brightener.  I used Rubber Renew on the rubber and they cleaned up nice and got back some flexibility.  Then I sanded and painted the steel parts.  I think they look great.


I tried quite a few paints with no luck.  The Eastwood’s Clear Zinc didn’t even look close.  It came out a matte grey.  Then I stumbled across a can of this laying around in our shop and tried it.  I never would have guessed it would look so good.


It almost seemed too shiny but compared to some of my brighter zinc plate parts it is almost an exact match.  I’m happy.

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #706 on: September 17, 2015, 05:45:27 AM »
It's all in the details, Mark. And you nailed it. 
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #707 on: September 17, 2015, 09:05:41 AM »
Just to avoid confusion, the Bright Coat Metallic Finish comes in 3 colors: aluminum, gold and chrome.  The color I used was chrome.  The can just has the wrong cap on it.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #708 on: September 18, 2015, 04:53:35 PM »
Good stuff, Mark................Aluminum Brightener; Bright-Metal (chrome); will be added to my shelf ;) ;)
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #709 on: September 18, 2015, 05:26:59 PM »
This thread is just loaded with awesomeness!
Mark,
Thank you for sharing this special piece of history with us. 

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #710 on: November 04, 2015, 02:40:33 PM »
I haven’t posted for a while and unfortunately I’m way behind on my posts.  But I have a good explanation.  I was hoping that I would have assembly mostly completed by fall so I could start and ride it for a bit before putting it away and working on some final details over the winter. 

So then I was contacted by the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles.  They have been closed for renovation for a while and will be reopening December 6.  They are going to have an exhibition of 18 different bikes on display and asked me if I would loan them #97. :o Of course I was flattered but the thought of not having the bike around was a bit unnerving.  However, it didn’t take me long to change my mind.  It’s not every day that one gets an opportunity like this.

After that I spent just about every spare minute working on it and as a result I did finish the assembly.  I actually may not have without the extra pressure.  I did run out of time to fire it up but decided that wasn’t a bad thing because then I won’t have to worry about gas in the tank and carbs.  I was also hoping to get some really decent pics before it got picked up.  That will have to wait too. 

So here is the (temporarily) finished project.


I just hope it’s up to the standard that the museum expects.


They sent an awfully big truck to pick it up.


It is a little scary seeing it being loaded up to be hauled away.


Fortunately they definitely know what they’re doing.


One thing I have learned is it’s not as much fun when there is a deadline but I am very happy I got it is far as I did and now I’m ready for a little break from it.  I aleady have a short list of things I want to do when she comes back that I’ll post later. 

So now that the pressure is off I will take some time to post some of the pics I took over the summer.  And it’s not like I don’t have anything else to keep me busy.  I have #576 that I would like to have finished by spring.  We’ll see how that goes.  ::)  And of course I’m planning on going out to visit #97 maybe in January or February.  ;D
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #711 on: November 04, 2015, 03:55:25 PM »

I just hope it’s up to the standard that the museum expects.

I think you've got that more than covered!   :D

I just hope you got LOTS of pix of the paint, chrome, cases, etc. in case there's any damage.
I also hope you signed an agreement that covers damage, full replacement cost, etc.

That being said, it is extremely cool and fitting your bike should be displayed in a museum!
Maybe it should go on tour.  ;)
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #712 on: November 04, 2015, 03:57:08 PM »
Did they invite you to the big opening gala?  I'm glad that guy from Petersen convinced you...probably not a better example out there! :)

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #713 on: November 04, 2015, 05:17:57 PM »
I'm planning to check out the re-opened Peterson next month.  I'll look for your bike!
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #714 on: November 04, 2015, 08:27:59 PM »
Congratulations Mark, quite an honor and well-deserved...Larry

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #715 on: November 04, 2015, 09:02:33 PM »
Beautiful looking bike, can't wait to see proper pics once you get around to it. Amazing job and attention to detail!
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #716 on: November 05, 2015, 05:55:17 AM »
Thanks for all the nice comments. 

I also hope you signed an agreement that covers damage, full replacement cost, etc.
I did.  There is always a risk that something will happen but I'm more than covered on the insurance.  Hopefully I'll never need it.

Did they invite you to the big opening gala?
I can't make it down there when they reopen but they did say they would send me free tickets when I go there.  I'm looking forward to that.

I'm planning to check out the re-opened Peterson next month.  I'll look for your bike!
I'll be anxious to hear what you think.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #717 on: November 06, 2015, 10:00:19 AM »
I'm with Calj on YOUR standards............GREAT JOB ;)
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #718 on: November 08, 2015, 03:17:47 PM »
Besides starting it and riding it I still have a few things I'd like to do on #97.  Hopefully some of you may get a chance to check it out.  If you do please let me know if there is something that looks incorrect.  I was going to see if anyone would catch a couple of details but I decide to point them out.

I used a new wiring harness for now.  I have several that I am going to try to refurbish over the winter.  Also I still need to redo the oil pressure switch wire.  Those aren’t details you would see.  If you look close you may see the following items.

I think the carbs are bit too dark.  I would like to find a way to lighten them.

I used some repro tach and speed cables that I had made up from MotionPro.  They’re not bad.  They have almost correct looking short nuts but I am going to try to get some closer matches.

The fuel lines are the wrong size.  I just ran out of time to source the right ones.

And the spoke nipples are incorrect.  I didn’t lace up the wheels.  I was more worried about the color being correct and didn’t notice that I had given the mechanic the wrong ones.  Here’s a pic showing the correct nipples on the right.


When I get time I will make a list of everything that is correct.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #719 on: November 08, 2015, 11:50:42 PM »
 I missed the spoke nipples on the rolled rear rim of my #5511 too. I have them labeled in a container with other sandcast bike parts. If I ever swap out the tire, I'll get it right then.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #720 on: November 09, 2015, 06:05:38 PM »
The question isn't, "Is your bike up to their level", but "are theirs up to yours"!  :D

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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #721 on: November 09, 2015, 07:43:39 PM »
I have a question for you( i used to own #572)
Does 576 have the 28 tops on the carbs?.. When I owned the bike I knew there was at least two versions of tops and rings, but was nit aware of the numbered tops...and always wondered if the bike I had, would have had them .
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #722 on: November 10, 2015, 05:52:06 AM »
The 28 carb tops are not a sandcast thing.  They were actually used on VINs up to 17,342.  Service Bulliten #15 was a recall on the caps, slides, springs and cables.  There were issues where the cables would bind up and the throttle would not close.  So the new slides and springs were longer and the new cables were bigger diameter.  To answer your question, 576 would have had them until (and if) they were recalled.  The only 28 tops that exist are ones that weren't thrown away for the recall, or probably more rarely missed the recall.  I used the 28 tops on my restoration in an attempt to make it like it left the factory.  It won't get ridden enough in my opinion to be a safety issue.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #723 on: November 10, 2015, 07:20:28 AM »
Congrats Mark.   The Peterson museum is first class.   I wouldn't be a bit suprised if Honda contacted you about that beauty as well.  I still plan on making a pilgrimage to see that bike some day.
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Re: Sandcast #97 restoration
« Reply #724 on: November 12, 2015, 04:24:07 PM »
Did they invite you to the big opening gala?  I'm glad that guy from Petersen convinced you...probably not a better example out there! :)
Since I posted that they didn't I received an invitation but like I said I won't be able to go then.  I'll be on a vacation that was planned long before this came up.  But I thought it was really nice that they did that. 
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