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Offline petercb750

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Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« on: November 05, 2010, 11:53:18 PM »
Yes, I know, this old chestnut again, but I need to vent.
Firstly, I ALWAYS remove my helmet when paying for fuel - whether it's "law" or not, I just think it's a courteous thing to do.
This morning I'm at the servo I always use (normally in the work car, but today on the old CB) - I had my helmet on while I was filling up. Next minute, over the loud speaker, so the whole friggin servo could hear it.....
"Number 2, please remove your helmet". All eyes were upon me.
I looked up, yes I was Number 2. A couple of explitives and a shake of the head later, I finished what I was doing, removed my helmet and made my way to the desk.
She could see I was not real impressed, and said straight away before I had even made it to the counter....
"I love your bike". Normally that would be enough for me to go weak at the knees, fall in love and have a chat, but my response was....
"WTF was all that about - since when do you police what people are wearing when they are just filling up?" She says that I....
"will find it is the case everywhere" I said.....
"BS, and do you say the same to people wearing burkhas (sp) when they're filling up?" She just said....
"no, but that is our helmet policy". I said.....
"well, that's discrimination and it sucks - I was going to take it off when I came in, as I always do, but I don't like being told what to wear when I'm out there, especially when everybody out there turns and stares at me". She got my point and didn't wish me nice day or ride.......

Later on, I was at another servo (did quite a few miles today  ;D  ), and related the story - he said it was a bit "radical" and they don't give a toss what people wear when they are filling up, but do ask that helmets come off when paying (again, I am fine with that).

Anyway, I feel better now, thanks for listening.
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 12:04:01 AM »
id be pissed off as well,you might leave your helmet on outside if its cold and windy,or you think a dill might drive into you,pack a burka next time,take off the helmet,don the burka and pay.

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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 12:32:49 AM »
I wouldn't have taken my helmet off untili was entering the service station....I am glad you brought up the berka, even though they should be banned...

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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 04:19:42 AM »
OK. Guys does that mean if a Sikh that shows up to fill up their car has to pull his Turban to get gas and pay, if so that must go over like a "lead fart" and if not, that is discrimination against another visible minority, Bike Drivers, I'd #$%* about that.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 04:38:44 AM »
Pete
It's another reason why the Simpson Desert should be fenced and chuck ém in there.
That's my solution mate.
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 11:02:44 AM »
Wasn't aware of this tidbit of Aussie protocol.  Is it all about face recognition, cameras or something?   Can't you just pay at the pump with a Credit or Debit card and keep your helmet on?
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 02:17:01 PM »
Wasn't aware of this tidbit of Aussie protocol.  Is it all about face recognition, cameras or something?   Can't you just pay at the pump with a Credit or Debit card and keep your helmet on?

Mate, this was a case of not even being able to put petrol in with my helmet on.............hadn't even got to the paying stage. ::)
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 02:51:07 PM »
Wasn't aware of this tidbit of Aussie protocol.  Is it all about face recognition, cameras or something?   Can't you just pay at the pump with a Credit or Debit card and keep your helmet on?

It isn't "protocol" it is an over zealous staff member trying  to throw her weight around. It is law to remove the helmet before going into the shop to pay for the fuel, this is because service stations are an easy target for hold ups so it is the same law as entering a bank, remove helmet before entering, not before filling your bike......

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 03:22:20 PM »
Wasn't aware of this tidbit of Aussie protocol.  Is it all about face recognition, cameras or something?   Can't you just pay at the pump with a Credit or Debit card and keep your helmet on?

It isn't "protocol" it is an over zealous staff member trying  to throw her weight around. It is law to remove the helmet before going into the shop to pay for the fuel, this is because service stations are an easy target for hold ups so it is the same law as entering a bank, remove helmet before entering, not before filling your bike......

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Actually, that's a good point Mick - using the bank example - you'd have to ask "when do I need to take the helmet off?" - when I get to the door, or when I get off the bike a few metres down the street? Same difference.

Just as an aside, I had to laugh the other day - a group of people were having their photo taken at a lookout near my home - all women wearing burkhas, about 12 of them - how the hell would you know who was who in the resulting happy snap?? Funny.  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 03:40:15 PM »
May as well have opened up the linen closet and taken a photo of the bloody sheets..... ;D ;D

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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 04:47:06 PM »
I leave my helmet on when I use my Credit Card at the pump. Since the protocol here is to pay first of you are paying cash they want you to remove you helmet. But if I pay at the pump they can kiss my ass.
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 05:03:20 PM »
I leave my helmet on when I use my Credit Card at the pump. Since the protocol here is to pay first of you are paying cash they want you to remove you helmet. But if I pay at the pump they can kiss my ass.

Same point I was making.  Normally I never even get off the bike.  Tank holds just a tad more when the bike is upright so having long legs I just plant my feet and balance the bike while I fill up.  Here's a thought,  Maybe if you don't dismount then the law would say you gotta keep your helmet on  ;D

Honestly, the young lady probably should have been saluted for her diligence,  the one finger salute.
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 05:08:36 PM »
I leave my helmet on when I use my Credit Card at the pump. Since the protocol here is to pay first of you are paying cash they want you to remove you helmet. But if I pay at the pump they can kiss my ass.

Same point I was making.  Normally I never even get off the bike.  Tank holds just a tad more when the bike is upright so having long legs I just plant my feet and balance the bike while I fill up.  Here's a thought,  Maybe if you don't dismount then the law would say you gotta keep your helmet on  ;D

Honestly, the young lady probably should have been saluted for her diligence,  the one finger salute.
They may not have pay at the pump in Australia. 
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2010, 05:10:24 PM »
Thats right Bobby, we pay inside the station, and thats when we are required to take off our helmets, which i have absolutely no problem with.

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2010, 05:45:05 PM »


It isn't "protocol" it is an over zealous staff member trying  to throw her weight around.

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Maybe she just needs a hemet mate.
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2010, 05:59:19 PM »


It isn't "protocol" it is an over zealous staff member trying  to throw her weight around.

 
Maybe she just needs a hemet mate.
A Fireman's one.  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Or maybe a gag..... ;)

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2010, 06:08:26 PM »
No "pay at the pump" in Ozland?
You guys are livin' in the 90's [no offense intended].

I don't go to gas stations that don't have that feature.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2010, 06:39:26 PM »
No "pay at the pump" in Ozland?
You guys are livin' in the 90's [no offense intended].

I don't go to gas stations that don't have that feature.

That ok if you want to pay card fee's and #$%* to the banks but i deal mainly in cash, always have and where i can i always will, if that means walking into a station then thats the price i pay.....I would rather it go back to the good old days where someone poured your gas and washed your windshield while you waited.......where has all the customer service gone..... ???

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 06:56:59 PM »
No "pay at the pump" in Ozland?
You guys are livin' in the 90's [no offense intended].

I don't go to gas stations that don't have that feature.

That ok if you want to pay card fee's and #$%* to the banks but i deal mainly in cash, always have and where i can i always will, if that means walking into a station then thats the price i pay.....I would rather it go back to the good old days where someone poured your gas and washed your windshield while you waited.......where has all the customer service gone..... ???

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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 10:04:48 PM »
No "pay at the pump" in Ozland?
You guys are livin' in the 90's [no offense intended].

I don't go to gas stations that don't have that feature.

That ok if you want to pay card fee's and #$%* to the banks but i deal mainly in cash, always have and where i can i always will, if that means walking into a station then thats the price i pay.....I would rather it go back to the good old days where someone poured your gas and washed your windshield while you waited.......where has all the customer service gone..... ???

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No card fees for us if you're using a check card, and they did away with different prices for cash and credit here a while ago.  I do miss the mandatory full service gas stations they have in Oregon (I think New Jersey is the same), but I only liked it when I was getting gas for the car.  It was really annoying on a bike because you can pump your own gas into the tank, but an attendant has to remove the hose and put it back for you.   

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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2010, 11:08:46 PM »
There are still two-rate stations here in OR... I kinda like payin for gas with the debit card and keepin my cash in my pocket for the small businesses, let the big corps pay the transaction fees. Usually gas up at the places that charge the same rate for both, even tho for a 3 or 4 gallon tank we're only talkin maybe a dime or two worth of difference. I usually take my helmet off if I have to go inside, or if I've put some miles on and just need to let my head expand while I'm filling, but I have worn it inside and paid when I didn't feel like takin it off and never got any flak about it...never really thought about the robbery scenario, but I don't think I've ever heard about any "bike helmeted gas station robbers" anywhere around here....
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2010, 11:33:51 PM »
i always remove my helmet so people can see how handsome i am.

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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2010, 11:38:09 PM »
Been thinkin about gettin my bald head tattoo'd to look like a helmet.... ;D
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Re: Petrol stations and helmets (Oz based)
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2010, 06:40:51 AM »
This would not be a problem if you lived in a No Helmet state
like NH.
Unless you were wearing a helmet. :-\
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2010, 06:57:11 PM »
This would not be a problem if you lived in a No Helmet state
like NH.
Unless you were wearing a helmet. :-\

People break laws all the time.  This would not be a problem if you were not wearing a helmet in the first place, regardless of the law. 


Not condoning riding without a helmet... ;)