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Offline Kong

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Frame Rust and Strength
« on: November 07, 2010, 05:39:42 AM »


Barn finds are common, so I think this question may be of interest to a few of you.  I have two 550's with good titles, one of which will be Cafe-itized this winter.  One is a '77 bike with low milage but heavy rust on one side, as can be seen in the photograph above.  The heavy rust is confined to the area you see.  Apparently the bike, which has a 6" extended front end with stock side stand, was laying against some old hay bales for about 8 years.  Needless to say where the hay touched it and the metal got to rot away in blissful communion with oneanother.  I can remove the rust with either a grinder, wire wheel, phosphoric acid, or just plain vinegar, that's not a concern.  What I am concerned with is the strength of the steel and how sound the frame will be after cleaning.

My thinking is that the frame is probably sound, just remove the rust by the least aggressive method available (don't use the grinder) and get on with the build.  However at the same time a little voice in my head keeps saying, "hey buddy, this is your butt on the line here and you know you drive like an idiot, are you going to trust a frame that obviously has been weakened to some extent?"  What do you think?
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2002 FXSTD/I  Softail Deuce
2001 Acura (Honda) CL Type-S
1986 Honda Rebel, 450
1978 Honda CB550K
1977 Honda CB550K

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Re: Frame Rust and Strength
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 05:54:32 AM »
I'm not scared by anything I see - YET!  The parts to worry about are the motor mounts and the down tube.  If you are cafe'n the frame, then the loop for the rear peg may not be needed.

If after you clean it (yes, by least aggressive means possible) and you have a hole to the innards, then I would worry.  Once the rust gets inside the tube, it's tough to know what ur dealing with.
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Re: Frame Rust and Strength
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 06:07:15 AM »
Very good point on the possibility of the rust having migrated to the innerds (that's a technical term) of the tubes.  In the case of this particular bike the heavy rust - bordering on scale rust but not quite so bad that it can be dislodged with a fingernail - is confined to the wheels and the immediate area where the bike was against the hay.   The following picture shows the larger area (and the unburnt electrics - all thanks to the gods) and so you can see that the rust is confined to the area shown.  And yep, those tubes for the passenger pegs will be removed along with a lot more.

Here's how it looks in the larger area:
2002 FXSTD/I  Softail Deuce
2001 Acura (Honda) CL Type-S
1986 Honda Rebel, 450
1978 Honda CB550K
1977 Honda CB550K