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Offline MCRider

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CB750 Rear Fender Crack
« on: November 21, 2010, 06:15:41 PM »
This comes from a discussion on rear racks for CB750s. I was telling a few that my rear fender cracked from a rack that had mounting points on the taillight.

Long story. First rack mounted to the shocks and turnsignals, cantilever back over the taillight. Served well for many years, finally broke both sides right behind the turnsignals. Fell off on the highway with its load. Saw it in my mirrors. Was able to Uturn and retrieve it just as someone was pulling over to scavenge it. Couldn't blame them.

Repaired by putting rods down the tubes, and welded back together.

Later got one of the popular racks that had the same mounting points plus 2 on the top of the 4 bolt style taillight mount. This served well till one extended trip with heavy load, probably 35lbs plus the back rest for Linda was mounted to the rack, which was pretty typical. The rear fender cracked in several places. Right at the taillight bolts and on the sides near the turn signals, and right behind the 2 bolts where it mounts to the frame.

I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying be aware. And anything depending on the fender alone to carry it (no hardpoints on the frame) should probably be limited to a <5lb day bag. IMO
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Re: CB750 Rear Fender Crack
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 07:33:53 PM »
Yep, and you'll see many, many fenders bent outward, just past the rear frame, where all this loading occurred! Mine's included, from my early days of setting my oversized backpack right on the tailight and my rider using it as her backrest.

I did one thing that helped reduce that breakdown from the cantilever designs (on several bikes, not just mine) because they were usually strong enough, so long as they did not twist: I made a wide 1" x 1/8" thick metal (aluminum) strap, with the ends turned up at 90 degree angles just far enough to reach the back of the rack, with the middle of this 'bracket' bolted underneath the 4-bolt taillight's mounts. My current setup of Krauser rack/bags/tourpak is like this, has been for over 30 years. (Will try to return a pix, here...) What it does: it stops the side-to-side twisting of those tubes, which caused the fatigue, which left many a rack on the road. And it puts very little load on the fender itself: I made it with slotted adjustments on the ends so I could pull the fender UP slightly when tightening the bolts.

Like you, MC: I broke 2 racks in 2 years when they were not bolted down back there, and the bike always had an extra swing of its own when straightening up from a turn.  :)
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Re: CB750 Rear Fender Crack
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 03:19:33 AM »
Understanding stress and strain are important aspects of any accessory designers training.

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Re: CB750 Rear Fender Crack
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 04:55:16 AM »
Good info MC! Hondaman we need a pic of your setup that works!

First - rack held up well for a couple of years including a 2-up trip to the Adirondacks (2008)



However....this years solo trip in the Adirondacks  -carrying a small pelican case and light load - and some bumpy roads was too much for the rack....

The setup:



the breaking point



I got it welded on my return with 2 plugs - one on either side. A cross brace was also fitted to the license plate holder to prevent up/down movement.





Next plan is to brace the license attachment points to the footpeg bolts to triangulate the brace. Will also mount pelican side cases to this setup. Winter project!

Thanks again Ron for bringing this up.

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