Author Topic: Wow - New manufacture 4-into-4 exhaust (Read 4536 times)

rpyles · « **on:** March 16, 2006, 05:49:01 AM »

Anybody heard of these guys before? $1500 plus $250 shipping isn't cheap.

Picture looks like they're a pair of 2-into-2's.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-1970-Honda-CB750-K0-Exhaust-CB-750-sandcast_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35596QQitemZ4620754480QQrdZ1

Richard

74cb750 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:14:11 AM »

Yeah, well, at that price I would just go with the OEM Honda pipes still available at your local dealer for basically the same $.
michel

dusterdude · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:20:05 AM »

that sob is crazy,but some bonehead will buy em tho.

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:39:25 AM »

Hey Richard, I recall you mentioned you would like to have the original pipes. They are available again; ask for them to your Honda dealer.
After 30 years of faithful service, your bike deserves a new set of pipes.

Raul

rpyles · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:46:04 AM »

Thanks, Raul - I had no idea.

Richard

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:11:28 AM »

The website of the seller is awesome though.

TONS of rare sandcast parts and reproduction items as well. Short chainguards, smooth oil filter covers, painted wrinkle tanks, painted sidecovers, recessed ignitions, righthand switchgear with the black kill switch, repop seats, etc.

It's all insanely $$$$$, but if you REALLY need it....

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:14:44 AM »

Just one vote-not much history on eBay, but based in Japan...

Raul

Bryan Boyle · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:23:54 AM »

Quote from: GroovieGhoulie on March 16, 2006, 08:11:28 AM

The website of the seller is awesome though.

TONS of rare sandcast parts and reproduction items as well. Short chainguards, smooth oil filter covers, painted wrinkle tanks, painted sidecovers, recessed ignitions, righthand switchgear with the black kill switch, repop seats, etc.

It's all insanely $$$$$, but if you REALLY need it....

Actually, considering some of this stuff from honda is manufactured of unobtanium...some (and I mean SOME) of
the prices, if you are stuck, are not too bad, imho.

Prices on ebay sometimes go insanely above these.

YMMV, I guess, depending on what your level of pain tolerance is. You want insane prices? Try buying parts
for personal aircraft.

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:25:11 AM »

My dad is a pilot, so i know!

Bryan Boyle · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:39:17 AM »

Quote from: GroovieGhoulie on March 16, 2006, 09:25:11 AM

My dad is a pilot, so i know!

$80. for fine wire iridium spark plugs...$4800 for a 2-way fuel selector valve...$275 for a 3' throttle cable...

at least I save on the labor...

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:58:38 AM »

Quote

$80. for fine wire iridium spark plugs...$4800 for a 2-way fuel selector valve...$275 for a 3' throttle cable...

Are these for a "sandcast" plane?

ledbetter · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2006, 10:22:16 AM »

Yeah my Dad is a pilot also,so have also seen what parts for aircraft go for,will make you cringe

Look up the price for a engine chain for a 182,will blow your mind

Lee

p.s. so how many pilots or folks who work in the aviation industry do we have around here

Ted Nomura · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:49:35 AM »

Quote from: rpyles on March 16, 2006, 05:49:01 AM

Anybody heard of these guys before? $1500 plus $250 shipping isn't cheap. Picture looks like they're a pair of 2-into-2's.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-1970-Honda-CB750-K0-Exhaust-CB-750-sandcast_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35596QQitemZ4620754480QQrdZ1

Richard

When Mr. Honda himself was in charge, he had a policy to stocking all the NOS parts for at least 10 years but after he retired, Honda decided to dump the NOS parts, which caused some people to buy all the available parts and resell to the customers at infrated prices. Good to have the new 1969-1976 CB750K and 1971976 CB500/550K back in Honda stock again. I hope they make it in China so it'll be affordable to regular folks. I know that new pipes for the Yamaha RD350 are still made in India.

Oh, those 2 by 2 pipes are naturally not stock and the price of $1500 plus shipping is outragious. I bought a similar unit for my 1971 CB750K1 Police model that's almost new for $20 locally. I see too many non-stock items for sale at too high prices.

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2006, 12:52:35 PM »

Hey Ted, when you say you bought a set for 20, who was the President? Reagan?

Also, all the bikes in your signatures, are the bikes you would like to own, are the bikes you have owned or are the bikes you own?. In case it's the latter, I'm dying to see pictures of your garage. You must spend more time wrenching than riding!!!

Raul

ttr400 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:31:26 PM »

Well I think it's a great site, almost makes me want to get a 750 to restore!
I'm not a 750 guru, 400's are my cup of tea but I thought the prices were pretty alright and those pipes look like the 4-4's to me.

Kevin.

Ted Nomura · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2006, 02:26:09 PM »

Quote from: Raul CB750K1 on March 16, 2006, 12:52:35 PM

Hey Ted, when you say you bought a set for 20, who was the President? Reagan?

Also, all the bikes in your signatures, are the bikes you would like to own, are the bikes you have owned or are the bikes you own?. In case it's the latter, I'm dying to see pictures of your garage. You must spend more time wrenching than riding!!!

Raul

Actually it was President Clinton. I bought the pipes in 1993.
The bikes in the signature are the ones I currently own. I actually ran out of space to list them all, which is about 40. Most are totally stock and complete but some needs a new paint job. It does seem like I spend more time than wrenching but my favorite time is when I crank up about a dozen of them at the same time to keep the engines flesh when I'm not riding them. I actually name each bikes after girls I know so I can keep track. I don't have current photos to transfer but I'm working on it. When I was a kid during the 1970s, my dream was to have my own motorcycle shop but I end up joining the military and spent my free time buying cheap bikes with my limited funds. Now I have a private bike shop of my own with a big lot (for Las Vegas real state) so I can ride my dirt bikes. But when my friend saw my motorcycle showroom, he commented that I have "no room for wife!".

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2006, 12:51:42 AM »

Wow, now that's impressing!!!

Bryan Boyle · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2006, 05:00:48 AM »

Quote from: Bob Wessner on March 16, 2006, 09:58:38 AM

Quote
$80. for fine wire iridium spark plugs...$4800 for a 2-way fuel selector valve...$275 for a 3' throttle cable...

Are these for a "sandcast" plane?

I wish. Actually, just for a plain old lycoming O320 sitting on the front of my '69 cherokee.
The fuel selector valve price is what my tie-down neighbor was quoted for his beechcraft sundowner.
Since i wrench on planes part-time, the cost of the cable is what came out of the cessna price book
for an '82 C172.

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2006, 05:16:17 AM »

My dad had to replace some nuts and bolts on his airplane. The nuts were not your garden-variety zinc-plated hardware store crap. They were nice aluminum pieces that were so expertly machined so as to be quite nearly flawless. They were lighter than a feather as well.

Of course a hardware store nut costs 12 cents while these aviation nuts cost more than ten bucks a pop!

6pkrunner · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2006, 12:05:07 PM »

Any nuts falling off an airplane in flight is not good news. So $10 per is pretty cheap if they stay fastened.

Do they make aircraft grade Loctite?

pwright · « **Reply #20 on:** March 17, 2006, 01:42:05 PM »

Bryan,

I hear you on the aircraft parts... ever thought about going the homebuilt route? I'm a former Pitts S-1S owner, sold it a year ago. Parts get a lot cheaper when they don't have those three letters on them... STC or PMA. Although, I was quite shocked at the bill for 8 new plugs... $260...ouch! Glad to see some other pilots here. I mostly just fly my buddy's '54 C-170B right now- and occasionally get a chance to fly a Champ.

Later,
-Pat-

UKCB750CAFERACERS · « **Reply #21 on:** March 18, 2006, 02:09:39 AM »

If these pipes are an EXACT replica of the originals,then they will be different to those you can buy today from your local Honda parts places....

No stamping,no brake pedal indentation,so I spose for a 100 per cent resto job,these represent the only known way to get the right /correct pipes for the really early bikes...

Many cant/wont pay those prices...I couldnt...but I bet someone will buy em if they are looking for perfection...

Please,if any SOHC member does get a set,please can they post details/info on our boards
for the benefit of us poor/cheapskate guys

Just think,if you have an otherwise perfect early bike,and need NOS pipes,the price difference isnt really that huge..is it..?

Postage/shipping sucks tho

Safe rides

techy5025 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 18, 2006, 05:18:13 PM »

The sandcast I just got has "no number" pipes which are probably the original
ones....quite rare. That would be great except all have several holes...some
quite large.

I think a set of HM 341's will do just fine and even they are not cheap. Nothing
makes a bike look great though then having a good looking set of pipes and a
good paint job.

A friend and I owned a Cessna 310 together. We had to overhaul both engines
eventually and remember them being 30 grand apiece or so. He is now chief pilot
and maintenance coordinator on a King Air. He told me last week that the annual
was 44 thousand and all they replaced were the tires...all the rest was labor.

Jim

seaweb11 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 18, 2006, 10:47:29 PM »

What a list !!!!! Man, my wifes great but

?

Ted, can I call on you for future advice with my ongoing 72CL350 project?

elisent · « **Reply #24 on:** March 18, 2006, 11:58:11 PM »

My sandcast and 70 both have no number original pipes. I don't know when the HM300 started being stamped but my 4000 mile original 70 around #30,000 has unmarkeds. The rumour and only rumour is that these new unmarkeds are the same as the 300s available but backdoored before they are stamped and indented then chromed. These have supposedly been available to those in the know from Japan for a while. This is only hearsay. Consider you buy a sandcast project for $5000.00 and can sell it for $15000.00 if perfect. $1600.00 for pipes is expensive but try finding original unmarkeds. As collectors demand factory year correct restorations these rare parts will be more available. I restore old Indian motorcycles and it is much easier to find year correct repro parts today than it was a few years ago. As prices go up on the bikes the financial incentive for making repro parts becomes more viable. Obviously this only concerns anal retentiv value oriented collectors like myself. I beleive under $1000.00 750s as riders will be available for many years. An entire running 73 for $1000.00 or a 69 Ducktail seat $1300.00. Can someone wipe jerkoff from my forehead? Eli
geocities.com/indian440

Bryan Boyle · « **Reply #25 on:** March 19, 2006, 03:23:15 PM »

Quote from: 6pkrunner on March 17, 2006, 12:05:07 PM

Any nuts falling off an airplane in flight is not good news. So $10 per is pretty cheap if they stay fastened. Do they make aircraft grade Loctite?

Nah...we use the same as everyone else.

Actually...we use either nylocs on non-heated parts, internal star washers on heated (exhaust...) parts,
safety wire or cotter pin everything else. Even the oil filter...

If you want to see the range of stuff...get the aircraft spruce and specialty company catalogue (the wish
book for acft. owners...). So many ground pounder gearheads have been ordering stuff from them for
their race cars/bikes, they came up with a racer's parts catalogue.

Bryan Boyle · « **Reply #26 on:** March 19, 2006, 03:29:53 PM »

Quote from: pwright on March 17, 2006, 01:42:05 PM

Bryan,

I hear you on the aircraft parts... ever thought about going the homebuilt route? I'm a former Pitts S-1S owner, sold it a year ago. Parts get a lot cheaper when they don't have those three letters on them... STC or PMA. Although, I was quite shocked at the bill for 8 new plugs... $260...ouch! Glad to see some other pilots here. I mostly just fly my buddy's '54 C-170B right now- and occasionally get a chance to fly a Champ.

Later,
-Pat-

Champs are neat rides. Nice and responsive (compared to the hershey bar winged cherokees or C172s I bump
around in while exercising my CFI...), and not maintenance pigs (try sourcing parts for a commanche or c175....
ebay is a Good Thing for those folk...).

I've thought about the homebuilt route...lots of good stuff out there, but, I'm afraid I would sink a pile
into a kit and it would end up taking space in the garage while the divorce lawyers worked out the details...
they say you get the airworthiness cert and divorce decree out of the mailbox on the same day...

Not that
I am shaky at banging rivets or shaping composite...just the time is a big factor.

That being said, there are 2 or 3 lancairs being built on the field I fly/tiedown/teach at. One of them was
in the EAA Sport Av mag this month. Nice guy...O360 200hp FI mill on the front. Exquisite finish, and
cruises 65% power at 5000' truing out at about 230 knots per hour. Now, THAT is getting somewhere
fast...

ObSOHCcontent: the owner of the lancair rides a cherry 76 750 to the field to fly...

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #27 on:** March 19, 2006, 09:53:08 PM »

Quote from: techy5025 on March 18, 2006, 05:18:13 PM

I think a set of HM 341's will do just fine and even they are not cheap. Nothing
makes a bike look great though then having a good looking set of pipes and a
good paint job.

At least get a set of proper glasspack 300s from DSS. They are still available for 119 pounds each.

Ted Nomura · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2006, 01:21:25 PM »

Quote from: seaweb11 on March 18, 2006, 10:47:29 PM

What a list !!!!! Man, my wifes great but ?

Ted, can I call on you for future advice with my ongoing 72CL350 project?

If you're referring to me, I'm in a military so I can only check this site once or twice so you can contact me here. Currently I'm also rebuilding another 1972 CL350 and already got most of the parts I needed from ebay. I still need to build-up both CL350 and SL350K1 engines. Good luck on your 72CL350 project.

74cb750 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 21, 2006, 11:24:55 AM »

Ted, do you have any pictures of the SL350?
Nicest bike ever, that almost killed me off road.

Ted Nomura · « **Reply #30 on:** March 21, 2006, 12:58:51 PM »

Quote from: 74cb750 on March 21, 2006, 11:24:55 AM

Ted, do you have any pictures of the SL350?
Nicest bike ever, that almost killed me off road.

I don't have photos that I can transfer now (I'm kinda new at digital photos) but my 1970 1/2 SL350K1 (same as 1971 model but manufactured in 1970 and registered as such) is blue, 1971 unit is red and the SL350K2 is gold. My original 1971 SL350K1 was my high school days bike and had it customized heavily then, mostly in the popular "chopper-look" form, with Z-bar, cobra seat and sissy bar, completely custom painted too. Back then my girlfriend and I rode it regularly and it was a fair bike, not the best dirt bike but a good scrambler. For me, it was a true multi-purpose bike. I had that poor thing converted to cafe-racer, semi-chopper, or enduro before I sold it so I can buy a new Kawasaki 900. But I missed my Sl350 so much that about a decade ago, I bought three near stock units (all with original pipes but some are dented) for total of $400. Best thing I ever did. Now I'm looking for an affordable 1972 Yamaha AT2.

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