Author Topic: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! NEW ENGINE COLORS AND PHOTOS! (Read 115513 times)

Syscrush · « **Reply #100 on:** January 06, 2011, 06:25:07 AM »

Quote from: paulages on January 06, 2011, 12:51:12 AM

Don't wanna be a debbie downer, but i'm still wondering how the whole engine-running-to care-about-torque-curves thing is going to happen... Is there an existing cam grind being used here? Again, "broad torque curve" will be a moot point if the engine is barely running or struggling through a weird breathing apparatus. i'm asking honestly here, not trying to be a dick: Who's doing this cam, and is it really running stick valves but in reverse? The creativity here is commendable, I'm just trying to understand the engineering...

I don't wanna try to speak for Joey, but my understanding is that this build is about style and uniqueness, not about performance. I put the big "

" after my remark about the unequal-length headers to denote that it was a joke - given that performance isn't really a concern with this build.

With that said, he could also claim that the shorter runners on the inbound cylinders help to compensate for the fact that those 2 cylinders get less cooling. NOTE -->

FrankenFrankenstuff · « **Reply #101 on:** January 06, 2011, 09:26:33 AM »

Just for shiits and giggles....If you were to make me a 1 off nutty header for my Cb550...How much? (by nutty I mean twisty like that Ford header) just something that nobody else has.
Here is the link to my project.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=70436.msg782070#msg782070

paulages · « **Reply #102 on:** January 06, 2011, 10:26:13 AM »

Quote from: Syscrush on January 06, 2011, 06:25:07 AM

Quote from: paulages on January 06, 2011, 12:51:12 AM
Don't wanna be a debbie downer, but i'm still wondering how the whole engine-running-to care-about-torque-curves thing is going to happen... Is there an existing cam grind being used here? Again, "broad torque curve" will be a moot point if the engine is barely running or struggling through a weird breathing apparatus. i'm asking honestly here, not trying to be a dick: Who's doing this cam, and is it really running stick valves but in reverse? The creativity here is commendable, I'm just trying to understand the engineering...
I don't wanna try to speak for Joey, but my understanding is that this build is about style and uniqueness, not about performance. I put the big "" after my remark about the unequal-length headers to denote that it was a joke - given that performance isn't really a concern with this build.

With that said, he could also claim that the shorter runners on the inbound cylinders help to compensate for the fact that those 2 cylinders get less cooling. NOTE -->

Yeah, like I said, I'm not trying to be a dick... I just wonder how it's going to work out. There's a difference between enhancing performance and... well, performing at all. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works out, I was just wondering about the details. If I remember right, there was a thread about this years ago, but I believe it discussed flipping the head around.

754 · « **Reply #103 on:** January 06, 2011, 10:32:11 AM »

He did mention he was planning on reversing the valves and seats..

joeyputt · « **Reply #104 on:** January 06, 2011, 05:18:40 PM »

I would like to thank all of you for your compliments and support, it means more to me than you could ever know and makes me very proud to be a member here among so many fine people.

Brother Frankenstuff I will take a look at your build thread and would love to build a header for you!

I welded the collector on to the end of the header today! Here are the pics! And thank you all again for your compliments and support!

Raef · « **Reply #105 on:** January 06, 2011, 06:09:31 PM »

The cam is the only real issue I seen and before I inquired you answered. Do you have a cam grinder or access to one? if not how do you modify them?

I have always thought there was room for large gains in the motors in the reduction of internal drag and friction.

I would love it build or get my hands on a set of full roller rockers for a 550

Mark

HedNut · « **Reply #106 on:** January 07, 2011, 05:14:42 AM »

HOLY GOODNESS BATMAN!!! This build is going to be like watching the birth of Jesus. I'm very excited...both inter-cranially and in the form of fluttery butterflies in the lower left belly. I dub thee header "TWIXXXLER" like a twizzler but much more naughty!

tweakin · « **Reply #107 on:** January 07, 2011, 05:52:50 AM »

Awesome commentary as usual HN, I find myself searching threads just to read you comments, lol.

On another note the header is TWIXXXLER.....SIck!

Quote from: HedNut on January 07, 2011, 05:14:42 AM

I dub thee header "TWIXXXLER" like a twizzler but much more naughty!

FrankenFrankenstuff · « **Reply #108 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:08:20 AM »

friggin Twixxxler sick

"Yo dawg, that bike thar be frigging Twixxxler sick Yo" - I say to you in conversations like such as

KRONUS0100 · « **Reply #109 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:15:40 AM »

have read and re-read this....mebbe I missed it...but where did you get the Titanium Blue engine paint and who makes it? This is an awesome build.. Motor is definitely major awesome.

joeyputt · « **Reply #110 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:38:29 AM »

TWIXXXLER! I love it! Can I use that?! I am going to coat the header in red after I finish welding it all and I could write TWIXXXLER on the side of the pipe in black!

Brother KRONUS0100 the Titanium Silver Blue that I used is the VHT High Temperature Engine Metallic number SP403. Most auto parts stores have the VHT Paint

joeyputt · « **Reply #111 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:52:08 AM »

Quote from: raef on January 06, 2011, 06:09:31 PM

The cam is the only real issue I seen and before I inquired you answered. Do you have a cam grinder or access to one? if not how do you modify them?

I have always thought there was room for large gains in the motors in the reduction of internal drag and friction.

I would love it build or get my hands on a set of full roller rockers for a 550

Mark

Brother raef I cut all of my personal cams by hand and I use a degree wheel and a micrometer lift gauge setup to read the duration and lift directly off of the lobes, it is a very time consuming process but I enjoy doing them!

I have never seen roller rockers for these engines, do you know of anyone making them? I saw the photo you posted of your headers, they look awesome!

HedNut · « **Reply #112 on:** January 07, 2011, 08:29:50 AM »

Quote from: joeyputt on January 07, 2011, 07:38:29 AM

TWIXXXLER! I love it! Can I use that?! I am going to coat the header in red after I finish welding it all and I could write TWIXXXLER on the side of the pipe in black!

Twixxxler is all yours dude! It would be entirely badass if you did that... YO diggity done wearin' Twixx'n my slicks all up in err'....?

Syscrush · « **Reply #113 on:** January 07, 2011, 09:40:30 AM »

Bro Joe, don't paint it on your header, engrave it on a spare side cover and mail it to HN.

joeyputt · « **Reply #114 on:** January 07, 2011, 05:27:55 PM »

I worked on the exhaust can today! It was longer than I wanted so I cut five inches out of it. I am going to mount it straight off of the header. I am sanding it now to get it ready for polishing.

Here is how long it was.

Here is how long it is now.

jaguar · « **Reply #115 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:33:03 PM »

isnt the header backwards or did i miss something?

joeyputt · « **Reply #116 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:39:34 PM »

Quote from: jaguar on January 07, 2011, 06:33:03 PM

isnt the header backwards or did i miss something?

Brother Jaguar I am reverse porting this engine, carburetors out front and exhaust out back!

Flying J · « **Reply #117 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:42:31 PM »

Quote from: jaguar on January 07, 2011, 06:33:03 PM

isnt the header backwards or did i miss something?

No, Why does your exhaust come off the front of your motor Jag? That is so 70's!

joeyputt · « **Reply #118 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:45:36 PM »

Quote from: ffjmoore on January 07, 2011, 06:42:31 PM

Quote from: jaguar on January 07, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
isnt the header backwards or did i miss something?

No, Why does your exhaust come off the front of your motor Jag? That is so 70's!

Hahahaha!

fastbroshi · « **Reply #119 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:47:29 PM »

Joeyputt that thing is gonna be right under your butt!!

joeyputt · « **Reply #120 on:** January 07, 2011, 06:54:40 PM »

Quote from: fastbroshi on January 07, 2011, 06:47:29 PM

Joeyputt that thing is gonna be right under your butt!!

It will be pretty close Brother fastbroshi! I am going to build a cafe style tailsection and the can will be right to the end of it, I will have to add a little piece of pipe between the header and the can but I will not be able to do it until I get the rear section of the frame built to make sure I have the angle and length that I want. I am going to weld it all up, the header, mid pipe, and can will all be one piece with no clamps so it will look really clean!

Stev-o · « **Reply #121 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:09:14 PM »

Quote from: fastbroshi on January 07, 2011, 06:47:29 PM

Joeyputt that thing is gonna be right under your butt!!

And is that gonna be hot!

FrankenFrankenstuff · « **Reply #122 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:22:00 PM »

Raef · « **Reply #123 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:24:37 PM »

Quote from: joeyputt on January 07, 2011, 07:52:08 AM

Quote from: raef on January 06, 2011, 06:09:31 PM
The cam is the only real issue I seen and before I inquired you answered. Do you have a cam grinder or access to one? if not how do you modify them?

I have always thought there was room for large gains in the motors in the reduction of internal drag and friction.

I would love it build or get my hands on a set of full roller rockers for a 550

Mark

Brother raef I cut all of my personal cams by hand and I use a degree wheel and a micrometer lift gauge setup to read the duration and lift directly off of the lobes, it is a very time consuming process but I enjoy doing them!

I have never seen roller rockers for these engines, do you know of anyone making them? I saw the photo you posted of your headers, they look awesome!

No I have never seen roller anything for the top end of these engines, I have brought it up before, if there is any out there no ones has brought them to my attention.
I have wondered what would stop someone from grinding their own cam, other than temper and finish that is

Stev-o · « **Reply #124 on:** January 07, 2011, 07:30:26 PM »

Cooll!

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Author Topic: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! NEW ENGINE COLORS AND PHOTOS! (Read 115513 times)