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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2011, 07:34:59 PM »
Joeyputt that thing is gonna be right under your butt!!

And is that gonna be hot!
If you look closly at the cafe bike exhaust I posted earlier, it comes thru the swing arm and exits under the seat. it only had about an inch of seat foam the heat was'nt bad.

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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #126 on: January 07, 2011, 07:48:51 PM »
With the material I will be building the tail section out of I do not think it will be too hot but if it does get warm I can wrap the mid pipe.



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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #127 on: January 07, 2011, 09:28:54 PM »
where are u planning on puting that can? it might look cool if you threw it under the rear seat like venting right above the tailight or something... you could make  some loovers or ducts to pull in the air and cool the exaust some how from the sides of the triangle.. just spit balling :D
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #128 on: January 07, 2011, 09:36:46 PM »
Brother Technological J there will not be a rear seat as I am building a cafe style tail and I am planning on adding a short mid pipe and running it straight off of the back of the header underneath the tail section.
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #129 on: January 07, 2011, 09:50:40 PM »
I couldn't find a picture of a 550 exhaust port, but here's a 650...



I think if you filled the port floor a bit and opened up the roof, you could actually create a pretty nice port shape. There seems to be lots of meat on the upper side, and you could potentially get close to a down draft port.. PM speedracer741 or search for his downdraft head thread if you want to see a cross section of the 550 head.

Regarding the valves, I assume you're installing new seats on the (former) intake side to fit the smaller exhaust valves?
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2011, 03:04:41 PM »
I am building this bike as more of a racer but I wanted to keep the kickstarter on the engine because I really like the way they look so today I put a nice aluminum bicycle pedal on it to give it a little flavor. The pedal came off of one of my childrens old bicycles too so it is sentimental to me.

I still need to sand and polish it but here is a photo of it on the engine.
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! ADDED A BICYCLE PEDAL & SMOOTHED CAN
« Reply #131 on: January 08, 2011, 07:12:12 PM »
I also removed the raised Yoshimura lettering that was cast into the end of the exhaust can that I shortened yesterday.

Today after I sanded it smooth I engraved it with DWMS and painted the cup Burnt Copper to match the pieces on the engine. I am still sanding the rest of the can to get it ready for polishing.


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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »
I couldn't find a picture of a 550 exhaust port, but here's a 650...



I think if you filled the port floor a bit and opened up the roof, you could actually create a pretty nice port shape. There seems to be lots of meat on the upper side, and you could potentially get close to a down draft port.. PM speedracer741 or search for his downdraft head thread if you want to see a cross section of the 550 head.

Regarding the valves, I assume you're installing new seats on the (former) intake side to fit the smaller exhaust valves?
That's not a bad exhaust port as it stands.
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! ADDED A BICYCLE PEDAL & SMOOTHED CAN
« Reply #133 on: January 09, 2011, 03:13:25 PM »
I started polishing on the exhaust can today, it still needs a lot more polishing but here is how it looks so far.

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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2011, 03:26:30 PM »
As someone that obviously has skill, I would like to know the steps you use to polish.

-what grits you use
-what compounds etc. etc.

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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #135 on: January 09, 2011, 05:56:54 PM »
As someone that obviously has skill, I would like to know the steps you use to polish.

-what grits you use
-what compounds etc. etc.

thanks



Note - For those that do not want to read all of this just read the last two paragraphs.

Brother Toxic I could write a really long post on polishing but instead I will try to keep it short! Hahahaha!

It is my belief that sanding is the key to polishing, the final polished finish will only be as good as the sand time that was put into the piece. I do a lot of polishing here at the shop (www.dwmsracing.com) and I wet sand almost everything that I do by hand.

The grits that I start with vary greatly depending upon how smooth the starting finish is and whether or not it has damage such as heavy scratches or scrapes etc. I have started with as rough as 80 grit to cut very rough cast or pebble finish rims and I have started as fine as 400 for smoother pieces.

Whatever grit you start with you want to keep dropping grades in paper, if you start with 400 then drop to 600 then drop to 800 etc. until you are satisfied with the finish or until you just do not want to sand anymore! Hahahaha! I have easily put up to 40 hours of sanding time alone into a rim before I ever even touch it with polish. Sanding is the key and the smoother you get the surface before polishing the better as well as the further you drop down in paper the better.

Sanding is also directional when preparing to polish a part so you want to try and sand an entire part in a single direction. When sanding a flat piece stay in one direction and when sanding something round like the lip or hoop of a rim sand around following the curve. If you sand in all different directions it will show after you polish and the finish will look splotchy or brighter in different areas.

Many of the photos on my website of polished parts were polished by hand. I personally like the White Diamonds or Mothers Power Metal which are both a liquid for hand polishing but there are many great polishes available. When using either of these polishes make sure to use a clean dry cloth and never a wet cloth or a wet part.

There are heavy duty professional buffers available but for the home builder most would not spend the money on one as they can be expensive. The alternative for machine polishing is to use your bench grinder. Most large hardware stores and some auto parts stores carry cloth buffing wheels that fit bench grinders as well as the compounds to go with them. There are many different types of wheels and compounds but for basic home polishing get a firm wheel and a cutting compound which you will use togethor for removal of super fine scratches, and a soft wheel for use with a final polishing compound. There are also many different compounds for different materials such as aluminum, stainless steel, etc. so get the compound that is suitable for the material you will be working with.

This is starting to get long but that will give you a basic idea. 

Instead of writing all of that I could have said sand, sand, sand, patience, sand, sand, patience, sand some more, sand a little more, well I have been sanding this long I may as well drop paper again, sand, sand, drop paper again, repeat, repeat again, patience, repeat, etc., etc., etc.,...did I mention sanding? sand, sand, sand,...then polish! Hahahaha!

Seriously though sanding and polishing can be dangerous! Read the warnings that come with the wheels, compounds, liquid polishes, sandpaper, etc. and wear proper safety equipment such as eye protection, a respirator, gloves, etc.

 
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #136 on: January 09, 2011, 06:18:16 PM »
We have a 12" pedestal buffer out a Delco Remey plant, it had a dust collector that came with it, a very nice unit used to buff tail light lenses.

buffing is very dangerous to you, the part and anything close to your work area. Pay special attention to edges on the part, the direction of the wheel, the location of your feet and head. parts sometime reach critical mass ;D  :-X\

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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2011, 06:27:11 PM »
i know i've had to replace or fix tons of stuff that went flying across the shop when i was learning the buff wheel ... just one of those things you can't really teach or even explain right ... you just gotta figure it out the hard way , and watch your toes 

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« Reply #138 on: January 09, 2011, 06:49:30 PM »
i know i've had to replace or fix tons of stuff that went flying across the shop when i was learning the buff wheel ... just one of those things you can't really teach or even explain right ... you just gotta figure it out the hard way , and watch your toes 

Happened more than once. ;)  You just hope theres no mark, or it doesn't show. ::)  It's the small stuff that get tricky.
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! I CUT THE EXHAUST CAN!
« Reply #139 on: January 10, 2011, 01:55:40 PM »
I couldn't find a picture of a 550 exhaust port, but here's a 650...



I think if you filled the port floor a bit and opened up the roof, you could actually create a pretty nice port shape. There seems to be lots of meat on the upper side, and you could potentially get close to a down draft port.. PM speedracer741 or search for his downdraft head thread if you want to see a cross section of the 550 head.

Regarding the valves, I assume you're installing new seats on the (former) intake side to fit the smaller exhaust valves?
That's not a bad exhaust port as it stands.

I agree, but he'll be using this exhaust port as an intake port...
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #140 on: January 10, 2011, 07:28:49 PM »
 So what are you saying..?? That you have seen the elusive Downdraft Exhaust port.. :o
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2011, 08:18:52 PM »
So what are you saying..?? That you have seen the elusive Downdraft Exhaust port.. :o

Not finished... I'm trying to get him to turn that project towards a 650 head for my CB735!
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #142 on: January 10, 2011, 10:04:17 PM »
I've heard of racers, maybe it was just one guy, that reversing Buick nailhead V8s.
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #143 on: January 11, 2011, 01:43:52 PM »
I've heard of racers, maybe it was just one guy, that reversing Buick nailhead V8s.



Brother fastbroshi I have seen a couple V8's reverse ported and they look pretty cool! I saw one on google that was in a roadster with four motorcycle carbs on each side!
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Re: DWMS RACING CB550F SUPER REVERSE PORT! POLISHED THE CAN
« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2011, 02:09:38 PM »
Can't beat the cool factor of that!

Here is a pic of a reverse port nailhead...with a crank drive supercharger to boot!

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« Reply #145 on: January 11, 2011, 08:30:49 PM »
Brother jneuf that is a cool photo! Thank you for posting it here!
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« Reply #146 on: January 12, 2011, 01:52:45 PM »
The tubing I used for this header was painted so I sanded the paint off and shaped around the collector today.

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« Reply #147 on: January 12, 2011, 03:50:20 PM »
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« Reply #148 on: January 12, 2011, 09:11:03 PM »
Hey brother joey! Are you going to polish the header or paint it?

Someone posted a link to your motor here, you may want to join in:

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« Reply #149 on: January 12, 2011, 09:57:44 PM »
Hey brother joey! Are you going to polish the header or paint it?

Someone posted a link to your motor here, you may want to join in:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82142.0;topicseen



Brother Stev-o I had originally wanted to wrap it for heat reasons but after I got the header built I thought it was too nice to wrap so I am going to paint it. The tubing I used to build it was originally red as you already know, well after seeing it red I really like it so I might do it in a red color! I thought it would really help it stand out, what do you think Brother?

Thank you for the link too Brother! That post is to the gallery off of my website! I have often wondered if there were photos of my engine around on other websites and different places!
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