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Offline mystic_1

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2016, 08:00:29 pm »
:D to be honest though my second search was for "rubber cover for momentary switch" and thats the one that lead to the image I actually posted :)

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2017, 11:11:27 pm »
Nicely done!

That's gotta be at least as weatherproof as the stock arrangement, what with the switch having it's own housing inside the switch housing.  Something like this would cap it off nicely (pun intended):





However, how much current is the switch rated for?  You might want to consider adding a relay to drive the starter relay (yo dawg, we heard you liked relays...), although you may not need one because it's a light-duty circuit and the starter solenoid only draws a few amps at most I'm guessing during cranking.


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But the headlight is on a 7 amp fuse, or did you bypass the head light with a simple SPST momentary switch just for the starter relay only instead of a SPDT NO NC momentary push button switch?

How about some specs and part numbers on the switches being used?
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2017, 08:46:22 pm »
If you still have the original starter switch guts, you can replace the disintegrated housing w/ a 3D printed copy.  http://shpws.me/NkB8 Works perfectly.
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2017, 10:26:44 am »
Any chance this could be reposted?  I'm doing this with my 69 cb350 and your photos (which aren't showing up) would be a HUGE help.  Thanks!

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2017, 02:51:06 pm »
Hi, This is a great extensive write up, but can't seem to get the pictures to go with it, just getting small blue square with question mark for each pic. Anyone help?

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2017, 02:46:31 pm »
I think Ron (the original poster)said in another thread that he was in the process of moving all of his pics. 
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #81 on: April 30, 2017, 11:02:23 pm »
Just a note to mention that the thread has been re-loaded.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 05:03:33 pm by SohRon »
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Assembling my '74 CB550: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=86697.0
Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
CB550 Assembly Manual: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.0.html

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Greetings,

Good article. I recently purchased a 1974 CB350F. I noticed that the switches in the right hand assembly were intermittent. I noticed as I removed the assembly that the "phillips" head of one of the two screws was almost "stripped out". I was very careful as I disassemble the unit .... I found the start button spring to be missing as well as the small copper/brass u shaped contact (sits on a spring under the red "RUN" button and in the "RUN" position electrically connects the two contact points on the small "circuit board" to which the two wires are connected). I was able to find a replacement spring for the "Start" button but now am undecided what too do about the missing piece of the "RUN" mechanism. I could "jumper" the connections but it would be in the "RUN" mode at all times. Does anyone think this could be a safety problem ?

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Does kill switch in the accident itself turn off the engine? I mean it; if I have an accident then I need to replace kill switch? After a motorcycle accident, my starter does not spin as if something started the klill switch.

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Hi guy's, new here but I'd like to thank SohRon for this excellent post, very handy. If I could just add something that may help, when it comes to tiny springs, ball bearings or anything else that can ping off at the speed of light. Get a large (larger the better) clear plastic bag and place the part you are dis-assembling in the bag with one hand and the relevant screwdriver / tool of choice. You can seal the bag around your wrist with a rubber band, then hold the part from outside the bag with your other free hand. Everything stays inside the bag whether it pings off or not.

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Looks like photobucket is no longer hosting free images and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $400 a month for the privilege. I'm not sure what course I'll take with this thread as I feel it has been useful for many. It may be that I'll finally write the book I've been threatening to do, in which case the thread will disappear from the site, which will kind of defeat its purpose; that is to make the information free and easily accessible to all. I apologize for the inconvenience. Downloading the images to the site is an option I'll have to consider. Stay tuned for further developments.
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Assembling my '74 CB550: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=86697.0
Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
CB550 Assembly Manual: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.0.html

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2017, 06:54:03 pm »
I realize this is 7+ years old, but if the photos could be updated (links) it would make this that much easier to understand/use. 
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2017, 10:44:51 am »
I have two copper washers that I don't remember where they go.  I think perhaps under the kill switch.  Anybody know or remember???

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2017, 04:10:29 pm »
hey @SohRon any luck on the images?

Trying to rebuild my starter switch and don't have a good idea of how it should go back together.

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #89 on: October 01, 2017, 09:52:37 pm »
What kind of bike?  I did a how-to for the starter button and have a replacement switch housing available for a fast and easy repair.  Link above^^.
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Project #1 1976 CB550F Rebuild: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,160110.0.html
Thread - How to fix your starter button (for real): http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,163170.0.html

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2017, 11:49:15 am »
Thanks for the reply! Picked up a 1973 CB350, found a bad handlebar ground was the cause!

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2017, 01:42:26 pm »
I realize this is 7+ years old, but if the photos could be updated (links) it would make this that much easier to understand/use. 

An app for Chrome and Firefox has been developed to allow a workaround on Photo_ uckets block allowing you to see the images without any work on the part of the original poster.  Install it and download/copy the images ( and text) to save for an addendum to your workshop manual, giving credit to Sohron
I can send you a link for a guy from the CX500 forum who wrote one.  There are at least two out there for Chrome.  Most will link to a location where you can examine the code to allow you to review it ensuring the code has no malicious content.
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #92 on: February 26, 2019, 10:34:09 pm »
Hey guys,

as the images on page one of this thread seem to be missing at the moment,
I would like to share the photobucket-folder of the owner: keen2oqe
I hope this helps future visitors, as I was also really struggeling with the reassembly ;D

Kind regards,
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2019, 08:07:10 am »
Hey guys,

as the images on page one of this thread seem to be missing at the moment,
I would like to share the photobucket-folder of the owner: keen2oqe
I hope this helps future visitors, as I was also really struggeling with the reassembly ;D

Kind regards,
Fabio

Thanks for that, Fabio!  With access to those photos, I was able to reconstruct the original post as a PDF file.  I'd be happy to have it available somewhere, but not sure how to go about it.  I offered a copy of my '77 CB400F owners manual to the admins for posting in the technical documentation library - they were happy to have it, but two months later it hasn't appeared...

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #94 on: April 20, 2020, 03:15:48 pm »
I'd be interested in that PDF if it's still available.
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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #95 on: April 20, 2020, 05:43:39 pm »
I'd be interested in that PDF if it's still available.

I'd be happy to share it, but I'm not sure what's acceptable.  It's not my work, so I don't feel like I should be the one to pass it around outside this forum without permission.  Maybe the OP could chime in?

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Re: Assembly and Discussion of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide)
« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2020, 05:59:55 pm »
Interesting read, thank you for the info.  BTW, I'm a new member, and a new owner of a 76 CB 750 F, and on a recent ride my starter wouldn't disengage after the turning over. I was a few blocks from my house, luckily, and after tinkering with it on the side of the road I ended up going home and getting to work. After a week of messing with the solenoid, including incorrectly attaching one of the hot wires to the neg post killing my electrical for a few days, I finally noticed the push button on the start was broken.

Upon disassembly I found an exploded switch with bits of plastic switch housing. So, I rode down to my local indy bike mechanic and they let me dig through some boxes to look for a replacement. I ended up finding the housing (for the actual switch, not the whole assembly) from what I think was a 78 500 assembly. It was much thicker off white plastic as opposed to the brittle clear stuff I found on my bike. Only problem was that the hole the screw goes through to screw it to the assembly was on the opposite side.

So, I reassembled the switch, pretty much how you explained, and then took a small metal scraper tool and heated it up with a propane torch, and melted off the tab with the hole. I put the button through the hole on the assembly, and hoped the handlebar would hold it in place...  Which, so far, it has. It feels a little shaky in there, I can feel the slightest bit of give when I start the bike, but so far no problems, the bike starts when I push the button and the starter disengages when the bike is running. I've been thinking about going back and getting a couple more of the switch covers just in case.

My only other option was purchasing the whole assembly (aftermarket) for around 50 bucks from a place called 4into1.com, which I ended up returning without even opening.  I'll let you know if it gives out on me but so far, it's been doing fine.  The only mishap was, that night I went out for a night ride and my headlight stopped working. Next day I removed the light from the bucket, unclipped it and then reattached and replaced it, and now it works again..  I'm wondering if something having to do with the start button being connected to the headlight because of the 'always on' thing while running may have something to do with it.  Guess I just have to wait and see if it happens again.

Anyway, justed wanted to add my 2 cents and my solution incase it ends up helping anyone.