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Offline kopptl

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1973 cl175 scrambler
« on: December 14, 2010, 09:59:46 PM »
kicker won't work. just free wheel's to the bottem, and catchesa in about the last 2 insches of travel. i pulled the side case, the return spring is fine, not bent or broken. the charging system sucks.
doesn't hold a charge
i am going to get a newbattery, but it barely holds a charge....
thaoughts opinions or anything is welcome! tthank you!
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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 05:35:19 PM »
Your kick start clutch is not installed correctly.  Fiddle around with it a bit and you'll figure it out.  I had the same issue with my 350/4, which I fixed by rotating the kickstart clutch.  The other option is that your kickstart clutch is worn out, but I doubt that.

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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 06:06:36 PM »
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Offline kopptl

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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 09:15:01 PM »
ok camelman, im going to sound dumb, where is the kickstart clutch on it.
tango911, what picture would you like?

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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 06:10:22 AM »
ok camelman, im going to sound dumb, where is the kickstart clutch on it.
tango911, what picture would you like?

There's no "kickstart clutch".
The 175 kicker is almost identical to most other Honda twins of the era.
To fully replace the kicker mechanism means you have to pull the engine and split the cases.
If you remove the clutch itself you'll be able to see the "external" portion of the kickstart shaft (meaning the part you don't have to split the cases to get to) - but if the shaft is messed up, then either live with the electric start or get going on pulling the engine.
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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 07:46:20 AM »
so if i pull the clutch, i should be able to work on the kicker??

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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 07:49:16 PM »
anybody??

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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 09:35:37 PM »
Is it completely free spinning? No resistance at all? Sounds like the spring inside the cases that pushes the ratcheting kickstart gears together could be broken. (If it's anything like the 160 kickstarter). Unfortunately, you will have to pull the cases to remedy this.

If there is some resistance... it feels like it's "slipping" (not free spinning)... it could be that your clutch plates and/or springs are very worn, or that the clutch is very poorly adjusted. 
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Re: 1973 cl175 scrambler
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 05:56:25 PM »
alright, ive torn the engine out, turned it upside down, and pulled the botttom case. i blew out a few teeth on the gear itself, so i got one from ebay. its immaculate. anybody got a picture of the cl175's kickstart shaft assembled??