as a road tire,they are bad,as a motocross tire they are useless,they look tough though,dont forget as these wear they just get more crappy,a proper road tire gets a little better early on in its life,you want looks or performance?put some on your bike ,take some photos then replace them.,if these tires were any good we would all be using them.you can get near the same patterns for cars,like for muddy farm conditions.