Topic: urm...okay....they worked before??!!!

[Domeojones]

Hi all I'm new and I am loving this forum! All the tips and tricks I cant wait to use and impress my gfs dad! Where restoring (well I'm allowed in the shed to watch n pads stuff!!) A cb500/4 k1? English bike and were onto the electrics well my gfs dad was having a mare so I brought round my tools and some crimps n quickly got everything working correctly apart from the indicators, none of them work so he bought new aftermarket ones still no luck! There's not even a click when you flick the switch! Any help be great because I kinda feel like iv broke it and Wana stay in his and her ;-) good books! Cheers people!

[MoMo]

Do they light up and don't flash?  If they do not light up you are probably missing 12v at the black wire that feeds the left switch.  If they light and do not flash the flasher most likely is bad...Larry

[LoVel]

Flasher, that's the expensive part, right?

Mine orginally came on and only rarely flashed but the more I use them the more they blink.

[MoMo]

Flasher, that's the expensive part, right?

Mine orginally came on and only rarely flashed but the more I use them the more they blink.

Flasher is very inexpensive, you can go to most any auto parts store and get an electronic 2 prong flasher as a replacement. Like 3 to 6 dollars...Larry

[Domeojones]

Wow okay thanks for the advice! No they don't even come on? Also had a look at tge wiring diagram on the forum and its great! But the wires we have on the New lights are black and green!! So do i connect the green to green n the black to blue/orange or the other way round? Cheers guys about the flasher! I'll have to nip down halfords, UK motor parts store! If I connect it the wrong way what will happen?? Lol

[flybox1]

would these new lights be LED's?  if so, you'll need an electronic style flasher.

[LoVel]

Flasher, that's the expensive part, right?

Mine orginally came on and only rarely flashed but the more I use them the more they blink.

Flasher is very inexpensive, you can go to most any auto parts store and get an electronic 2 prong flasher as a replacement. Like 3 to 6 dollars...Larry

Is this the same as the relay they want $60 at bike bandit.

[MoMo]

Flasher, that's the expensive part, right?

Mine orginally came on and only rarely flashed but the more I use them the more they blink.

Flasher is very inexpensive, you can go to most any auto parts store and get an electronic 2 prong flasher as a replacement. Like 3 to 6 dollars...Larry

Is this the same as the relay they want $60 at bike bandit.

Could be.   I bought mine at Brandywine Auto Parts (a local chain) and remember handing  Adam a five and getting some change back.

[MoMo]

Wow okay thanks for the advice! No they don't even come on? Also had a look at tge wiring diagram on the forum and its great! But the wires we have on the New lights are black and green!! So do i connect theYou green to green n the black to blue/orange or the other way round? Cheers guys about the flasher! I'll have to nip down halfords, UK motor parts store! If I connect it the wrong way what will happen?? Lol

You will cause a short to ground.  Determine if the black or green wire on the new signals is ground. Do that by opening the signal to see which wire goes to the center post and which goes to the outer ground body.It is most likely the black is ground...Larry

[Domeojones]

would these new lights be LED's?  if so, you'll need an electronic style flasher.

No just normal bulbs! Also the wiring is a bit dodgy!! I'll try and upload a pic! That may point out something obv to you clever people!

[LoVel]

To the OP sorry for crashing your thread and to MoMo thanks.  I will pull the relay and go up to autozone and take a look.

[lucky]

Flasher, that's the expensive part, right?

Mine orginally came on and only rarely flashed but the more I use them the more they blink.

Flasher is very inexpensive, you can go to most any auto parts store and get an electronic 2 prong flasher as a replacement. Like 3 to 6 dollars...Larry

Is this the same as the relay they want $60 at bike bandit.

$60.000 for a relay!!!!!!!!

Forget that!!!

[LoVel]

That is exactly why I didn't buy one.  I will use hand signals or flick the switch back and forth manually before paying that much.

[Domeojones]

To the OP sorry for crashing your thread and to MoMo thanks.  I will pull the relay and go up to autozone and take a look.

Urm....what is a Op?? Is someone taking the micky? Lol ! I will upload some pics at the wknd so you guys can see what im up against!

[LesterPiglet]

OP= original poster.

[Domeojones]

Oh!! Lol haha! Now I look like a doofas!

[LesterPiglet]

It's ok, we can't see you.   

[LoVel]

Don't confuse that with PO which stands for Previous Owner, as in it was dropped by the previous owner.

[bollingball]

Flasher, that's the expensive part, right?

Mine orginally came on and only rarely flashed but the more I use them the more they blink.

Flasher is very inexpensive, you can go to most any auto parts store and get an electronic 2 prong flasher as a replacement. Like 3 to 6 dollars...Larry

Is this the same as the relay they want $60 at bike bandit.

Must be something else no way it is $60.00 Less than $10.00 any where.
Green is usually ground for Honda. With after market you never know you will need to ring it out. But do get the electronic one instead of a thermal one They flash steady at idle where as a thermal will flash very slow at idle and speed up as you reach higher RPMs. Or as the voltage gets higher.

Ken
Ken

[Domeojones]

Okay guys little update!! Finally got the indicators working! It was the flasher relay in the end@! The old one was getting hot!! Dodgy!! Anyways thanks to everyone for all your help!! Next question time!! Anyone good with electrics lol  got a green wire with 5 wires soldered onto it!! You can just see it behind the flasher relay! So basically has anyone got a pic of what its spose to look like down there!! Lol

[bjbuchanan]

All those green wires soldered together are factory if they don't look to sketchy. If its a really bad, nasty job it was re-done by the PO but is still the basic idea. As said before green on Honda is a ground. These bikes use a common ground, you will probably trace that soldered mess to a single ground wire near the seat lock or coils. Clean the surface shiny and reattach. Now go impress father in law

[Domeojones]

Haha im going to give it my best!! Okay ill try and get a better picture, if i remember theres a plug with 8 wires in it and im sure there is 2 green wires, so could i solder 2 onto each green if there all a earth!! So what's the black wires for btw lol!! Sorry iv been a littke late got my own littke resto on the go! What you think guys??