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Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« on: December 24, 2010, 09:00:21 AM »
Hello: I am a helpless Then Came Bronson fan, and so a Michael Parks fan. The TCB series was on the air from 69-70 for 26 episodes. And a 2 hour pilot movie. During my formative years of age 17+/-. Since the series is now public domian (has been for a while) other fans have taken to reproducing the show. This guy has made the best effort I've found. Actually using equipment to improve on his VHS copies, the color and audio is very good. Which is good as the plots are often kind of sappy, while the photography is great with lots of lonely helicopter shots, and a fair amount of singing, usually 2 songs per episode. The bike has a tendency to change tires mid-episode when it goes off road and needs the tread. It will even lose a cylinder occasionally, converting from an 883 to a 350 Sprint and back. Regardless i love it.

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I got mine for Xmas 2 years ago. After a marathon session of watching them all in a few days, I'm revisiting while walking the treadmill and stretching. I resisted the treadmill regime for years, but my wife finally convinced me to get started. Really helps pass the time. Here's a representative clip (they are all over YouTube) one of the sappier ones, but it has everything in it, the bike, the love interest, the song and the photography.



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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2010, 01:11:21 AM »
There's lots of Then Came Bronson/Michael Parks fans out there.
Visit: www.michaelparks4u.com and www.jimbronson.com, also the facebook pages:  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43574182971 and http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Parks/125438325170.
I bought my set at horseapple also. The guy did a great job.
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2010, 05:03:19 AM »
saw all the episodes when it first aired
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2010, 11:50:40 AM »


  Yeah, I imagine we watched ALL of the Along Came Bronson episodes. Now, he seems to play the really degenerate Bad guy and does a good job of it, although, I'd rather see him doing something else.
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2010, 12:04:03 PM »
remember this open theme. I was 13 and sitting in front of our black and white TV every week it came on. I can't believe that was 40 years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2010, 12:18:28 PM »
remember this open theme. I was 13 and sitting in front of our black and white TV every week it came on. I can't believe that was 40 years ago.

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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2010, 12:31:09 PM »


  Yeah, I imagine we watched ALL of the Along Came Bronson episodes. Now, he seems to play the really degenerate Bad guy and does a good job of it, although, I'd rather see him doing something else.
He does that, but he also often plays a lawman. He's played Texas ranger Earl McGraw in 4 of Quentine Taratinos films, including Kill Bill where he also played the 80 year old pimp Esteban. And once for Robert Rodriguez. In each of his McGraw appearances, he is killed.
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2010, 01:37:36 PM »
 I read somewhere that during the filming of the show local HD dealers loaned or rented out different red  Sportster's to the film company. I wonder if any of these bikes are still out there anywhere. I think I'll do a goggle search and see if it brings up any info. If they are they would bring some big $$ I would think.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2010, 03:05:02 PM »
I read somewhere that during the filming of the show local HD dealers loaned or rented out different red  Sportster's to the film company. I wonder if any of these bikes are still out there anywhere. I think I'll do a goggle search and see if it brings up any info. If they are they would bring some big $$ I would think.
I think it unlikely any dealerships were involved. There were many modifications to the bike from stock, so having one around that would look the same is again unlikely. http://jimbronson.com/mike/The_Bike.htm  At the Jim Bronson.com website there are several repros that are more or less (less) true to the original.

They kept about 4 bikes on the traveling bus to shoot the various scenes, and wrecked them often. Hints were HD was actually un cooperative. BICBW.  With a quick search, I'm not coming up with any confirming articles.

In an issue of Cycle Parks strongly hinted he wished it were a different bike. Norton comes to mind.
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2010, 03:30:41 PM »
TCB Motorcycles:
The motorcycles used in the series were supplied by Harley-Davidson (according to the closing credits of the episodes); Sportsters (883cc) were used for the road shots and close-ups, with a Harley-Davidson Sprint SS350 and a Czechoslovakian CZ, and possibly a Harley Rapido 125, used occasionally for hillclimbs, beach scenes and other rough-terrain riding.
According to Bud Ekins, the stunt coordinator for the movie and the series, MGM bought two or three Sportsters for the pilot movie (which was filmed in the fall of 1968; the bikes were probably the 1969 model XLH). The bike used in the hill climb and beach scenes was a CZ, provided by Bud, who was a CZ dealer at the time. The bikes were sold after the movie was completed.
After the movie proved popular, and the series was scheduled, Harley-Davidson provided three Sportsters, one of which was customized with a side-car for close-up shots. H-D also provided a Sprint 350 and later a Rapido 125 (used in the moto-cross in the episode entitled Mating Dance For Tender Grass). The Rapido crashed before the shooting of the episode was finished, putting the stunt rider into the hospital. In that episode, the race's first prize was a green 1970 H-D Sportster, with the new "boat tail" seat/fender assembly. (It was first prize for a real race that was actually held for the episode, and was donated by Harley - even though it had been previously promised to another, paying customer of H-D! The customer did get his bike a week or so later.) In the episode entitled The Great Motorcycle Fiasco, the motorcycle, a "1937 Rudge Ulster with a bronze head," used by actor Keenan Wynn, was owned by either Keenan or Bud Ekins, who recommended Keenan for the part.
Bud said he was the one who customized the Sportsters and other cycles, and said the sissy bar came off of a Schwinn bicycle. He also said that no Triumphs, Yamahas or other cycles were used in the movie or episodes in place of the "Bronson" Sportsters, except the CZ (in the pilot movie) and the H-D Sprint and Rapido (in the episodes).
Bud said he trained Kurt Russell, who appeared on one TCB episode, to ride a cycle with a sidecar for the movie Swing Shift, which also starred Goldie Hawn. Click here for a look at a lobby card from that movie.
One thing Bud said was that, toward the end of the series, one of the Sportsters was dropped repeatedly in a studio to create sound effects of a crash. I tend to think it was for "THE FOREST PRIMEVAL" episode (aired in March 1970), where the bike crashes down the hillside.
In place of the Harley-Davidson logo on the gas tank, the bikes had a decal of a pyramid with an eye in the center. (When asked where the design idea came from, Michael Parks said to look on the back of a dollar bill. Bud Ekins thought it was designed either by someone in MGM or by one of the show's producers.)

The following comes from Cycle magazine for February 1970:


"The Bronson Bike"
MGM Press Release

For afficionados, the changes are as follows. The front wheel was replaced with a 21" aluminum rim carrying a 3.00 x 21 ribbed tire. The front fender was changed to a chromeplated, bobbed piece and the headlight nacelle, or housing, was removed and a chrome sports light(*) replaced it. A Harley-Davidson CH gas tank replaced the standard tank, and the oil tank and rear shock springs were chrome plated. A kickstarter was added although the Sportster carries an electric starter. (What the kickstarter does, is to enable the actor to look like he's turning over the big engine while the starter button is being pushed-Ed.)
The seat was replaced with a custom leather unit(**) and a short chrome hand-hold (***) was mounted behind the passenger seat. The chain guard cover and the voltage regulator cover were chrome plated. The rear fender was bobbed 5 inches and the tail light replaced with an old style English light. The motorcycle was repainted with a specially mixed formula which is called, from this point on, Bronson Red. The final touch was the addition of the Bronson "Eye" insignia to the gas tank."

* Bud Ekins said it was a Bates headlight.
** Possibly the "Cobra" seat (see ad on page 77), although Bud said it wasn't. It sure looks like the one, but maybe they "cloned" it after the show became popular.
*** A.k.a. "Sissy bar." Bud told me that he got that item off of a Schwinn bicycle.
An observant fan told me that the air cleaner cover was not a stock item for the 1969 Sportster - it was from an earlier Harley - and Bud agreed.
Bud also said that he didn't do the chroming that was listed in the press release, so maybe the cycles came from H-D with the modifications mentioned in place.

I've also talked with others from the show, and been told that the crew that handled the motorcycles for the pilot movie were from MGM, whereas the crew that handled the bikes for the series were different guys (the MGM guys didn't want to go on the road for extended periods of time). The only one who stayed with both the movie and the entire series was Bud Ekins.
Also, the 2 or 3 Sportsters used in the pilot movie were not used for the series - Harley provided the series' bikes on condition that they be returned. (This may indicate that the Sportster that was dropped for the crash sound effects was one from the movie - the effects may have been needed for the scene where the bike crashes into the cargo of the overturned truck. However, it may have been the series episode, entitled The Forest Primeval, where Bronson's bike crashes down a hill. But why they couldn't have used some other brand of cycle, I don't know.)
And the article in Cycle, for February 1970, states that there were "five" bikes, but lists only four: "Two Bronson street semi-chopped Sportsters, a hillclimb bike and the stunt bike." The hillclimb bike is probably the Sprint 350, and the stunt bike is a Sportster with a sidecar and a seat mounted on the front fender, the additions being for cameramen or the director and one cameraman. I will have more on this, as well as more details on the customized "Bronson Bike" in future updates - which can be presently found in the Newsletters section of the site.
Bud also told me that he was a Triumph dealer at the time, and had the largest sales worldwide. To "repay" him, Triumph gave him a dinner and a pin and put in two more dealerships in his area (thereby cutting Bud's sales - and profit - level). So he decided to go with Harleys for the tv show. (What's that expression, something about snatching defeat out of the jaws of triumph?)

Click here for the filmography, etc., of Bud Ekins.

Here's something interesting... If you look closely at the cycle on the model cycle box and the one on the book cover for "... THEN CAME BRONSON" (unfortunately you really need the original box and book to see it clearly), you will notice two things: 1) the photos were from the same photo-shoot (look at the background thru the wheel spokes, and also the reflections off various chrome parts - the camera angle is just a few inches or so different from one photo to the next, so it's the same bike and same shoot), 2) there's something strange about the front tire. To illustrate this, I created an animated gif file that cycles (pardon the pun) back and forth between the two views. Just look at the front tire. An artist has superimposed a street tire image over the knobby tire that was actually on the bike. (something strange!)

Click on the following links for photos of the real Sportster (from the model cycle box - not in good shape! - and from one of the TCB novels).
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 06:23:06 AM »
built the model.  loved the show


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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 09:48:18 AM »
built the model.  loved the show
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 10:46:58 AM »
I liked the show.
My parents didn't as they felt it was going to turn me into a biker!
It did help.
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2011, 09:36:28 PM »
It will even lose a cylinder occasionally, converting from an 883 to a 350 Sprint and back. Regardless i love it.


so bronson rode an ironhead. as far as i know these only came in 900cc and 1000cc.
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Re: Any Michael Parks/Then Came Bronson fans out there?
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2011, 04:36:58 AM »
I used to watch the show on a wednesday night at 7.30 then hope on my susuki 380 and go for a night ride into town. I found all the episodes plus the movie DVD set last year on the net, it brought back great memories.

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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 02:41:36 AM »
Got one of these on my helmet, it was the emblem on bronsons tank.

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 02:49:25 AM »
Bronsons replica HD.

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 05:53:34 AM »
Not quite a replica. Pipes on both sides, must be a 4 cylinder?  ;)
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