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Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:57:14 PM »
Hey guys, I recently lost the only key that I had for my 1975 Honda CB550 K1. I think it was the original too which sucks  :'(

Anyways, I know you can order replacement keys online or get a locksmith to make you one. However, a friend of mine told me that you can reset the lock's pins (or something like that) on the ignition to make it accept whatever key you insert into it. Does anyone have any information about how to do this or can lead me to some? I searched but didn't know exactly what to search for

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 01:23:31 PM »
just go to your local dealer they usually stock old keys
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 01:30:28 PM »
Hey guys, I recently lost the only key that I had for my 1975 Honda CB550 K1. I think it was the original too which sucks  :'(

Anyways, I know you can order replacement keys online or get a locksmith to make you one. However, a friend of mine told me that you can reset the lock's pins (or something like that) on the ignition to make it accept whatever key you insert into it. Does anyone have any information about how to do this or can lead me to some? I searched but didn't know exactly what to search for

Thanks in advance!
-Michael

Not recommended mate, it will make your bike to easy to steal....Take the numbers off the ignition and get one cut.

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 02:13:52 PM »
Look at the code on one of your locks-take that number and you can buy a key off ebay.  I went that route and key was perfect.

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 02:16:31 PM »
I have done that with locks and it is not as much fun as it sounds, it is more work and risk that it is worth. You lose or bend  a pin and you have a problem. Buy a key it is cheap and safe.
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 03:57:01 PM »
It's not really simple. The locks are single keyed, there is no master key: thus each pin is two pieces. This makes it fairly simple compared to mastered systems where each pin may be in many sections. However, you only have the pin sections that are in the lock and they won't make any new cut depths - you can flip a stack over and get a new cut there but you're very limited on what you can do.
To fit the lock to a key you have using the pins you have... it's unlikely you will have pins cut where you need them. What you do is find what pin cuts match cuts on your key and leave the rest of the pins out. This makes it easier to pick the lock and more likely that any random key that fits in the lock will turn it. You can also remove all the pins and make it a non-lock: anything - screwdriver, key, nail file - will turn it (although it looks like a lock and maybe nobody will try turning it).

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 04:09:59 PM »
There is a thread somewhere on how to disassemble your ignition and cut your own key. That's how I did mine. However my ignition was slightly different from the one in the tutorial and I had to improvise to some degree. The basic idea is you take it apart, insert your key blank and mark where the pins sit, use a needle file or I used fine diamond point bit in the dremel. Take a bit off, test, take some more off until it fits and turns the ignition then reassemble.

In the end I ended up with a key that fits and works although it does not operate the steering lock. Cost me the price of a blank. $2.

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 04:14:55 PM »
I have done this with filler cap and seat locks - so that you only need one key for all three.
But I wouldn't recomend it for the ignition lock as stated above it ceases to realy be a lock - plus
once the sliding pins are removed the key can drop out when riding.
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2010, 05:09:23 PM »
It isnt difficult to simply remove your ignition switch and take it to a local hardware store that has a decent key cutter; I bought a Nighthawk last week with no key; took ten minutes and $10 at ACE Hardware to get a key. By the way, not all of these bikes have the codes on the switch bodies; there were none on the Nighthawk.

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 07:47:01 PM »
Ya, I can't find any key codes on the ignition and my bike doesnt have a seat lock or a gas cap lock. I guess Ill just take it off and have a key made -.- make me feel like less of a man  :'( lol
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 05:33:46 AM »
Not less of a man, a wise man...:)

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 07:00:40 AM »
I was the one that wrote up the guide for cutting your own keys... it used to be in the tech section on the website, but seems to have vanished.  I'll see if I still have my original file hanging around.

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 11:25:31 PM »
Thanks for the help guys! Turns out my girlfriend had the key so I dodged a bullet! She must have accidentally grabbed it when digging through my pockets looking for money! Women!
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2010, 11:18:26 AM »
So, now you're changing the subject from "key" to "women"?
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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 06:43:48 AM »
I was the one that wrote up the guide for cutting your own keys... it used to be in the tech section on the website, but seems to have vanished.  I'll see if I still have my original file hanging around.

spwg


Edit:  File attached.  I had to downsize it to post, so if you want the higher quality file, just PM me.

I would be interested in your original file.

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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 10:26:59 AM »
What's the key number?  I have a NOS key floating around here.


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Re: Lost Key Anyone Know How To Make Your Own?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 12:08:32 PM »
Campbmic,

Now that you have found your key I would recommend having a couple of spares cut.  One to carry with you on trips as a  spare when you may possibly lose or misplace one, and the other to stay at home in a safe place for future reference when you loose key 1.  Just speaking from experience.

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