If some of you guys who are racing these frames are reinforcing this area I would very much appreciate it if you would provide a photograph of just what you are welding in where, because I can not see just what it is that needs to be strengthened in this area.
I have to say, I find it odd that if this is being done regularly, and it seems that some folks find it a necessary modification, then why after searching through many many postings and doing hundreds and hundreds of searches both here and elsewhere this is the first time anyone has mentioned it. If it is true that you not only can not remove that tube (and I doubt that I'm the first person who has dared dream such a thing) but that in fact that area of the bike needs considerable reinforcement for the bike the handle nicely, well, that's the sort of thing that you'd then expect to be common knowledge. Why ain't it?
Pictures please?
Because Retro Rocket likes to puff up.
A typically {and expected} stupid response from an idiot that knows sweet #$%* all about frame structure and integrity....My interest is in the safety of the guys asking the questions, not some chest beating exercise ....
Do you realise how stupid your ridiculous posts are ....
Got anything relevant to add? didn't think so and seeing though you sell bodgey chopped up bobbers {not real ones} i find it rather interesting that you tell people that weakening a frame that is known to flex in the area of that brace, is safe , because if i took your ill advised advice and had an accident because of it, i would sue your arse for giving out dangerous information to some people that don't have the experience to know any better. I showed this thread to a couple of my riding mates yesterday and they were amazed anyone would be stupid enough to say such things, especially where the information will stay around for thousands of people to read. But this is the internet and it is full of idiots.
Kong, you can't see where it needs to be braced because the flex happens while you are riding it, its in the area behind the battery box and oil tank. You will see lots of guys cutting the seat brace off when building cafe bikes, you may have noticed the amount of guys that come into those threads saying , "i hope you are going to put some sort of brace back in its place", this is because that area of the bike already has a lot of flex, I read one thread here yesterday where the owner didn't destroy the brace and was relocating it, the same thread had the same questions about replacing the brace. I and many others here have been riding these bikes for 30+ years
Ask this question in the High Performance section for more educated responses, No offence guys but some of the info in these threads is just plain dangerous...
Mick