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cb350F triple tree replacements
« on: February 05, 2011, 09:25:59 AM »
I have a '73 cb350F with a broken upper triple tree clamp. Seems to be a common problem and replacements are hard to find. My question is are there other triple trees that will work with the 350F's frame and wheel spacing?

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 11:23:25 AM »
The triple tree off a cb400f is the same and don't think you should have ay problem finding one to be honest
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 06:23:24 PM »
Use the 350F clamp only.  The 400f clamp is different.  Same fork tube diameter and fork tube spacing, but the two bikes have different gauge mount locations.

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 12:41:12 AM »
sorry thought they were the same
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 06:44:48 AM »
hmmm.  I honesty didn't think it would fit (at all).  I have a 400F top clamp in my garage.  I should check it out again and make sure it's actually what I think it is...

huh, yeah it does fit...  I always thought the steering stem was too big   ???
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 07:37:22 PM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 09:27:19 AM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

I have one if you need it:  $10 plus shipping...
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 10:01:06 AM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

I have one if you need it:  $10 plus shipping...

I know this is REALLY old, but...do you still have that 400 top tree? I've come up short on my new 350F...
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2011, 11:24:24 AM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

I have one if you need it:  $10 plus shipping...

I know this is REALLY old, but...do you still have that 400 top tree? I've come up short on my new 350F...

Sorry, I don't.
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2011, 12:15:01 PM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

I have one if you need it:  $10 plus shipping...

I know this is REALLY old, but...do you still have that 400 top tree? I've come up short on my new 350F...

HM  do you need just the top or the entire assembly?  I have an extra set, but there is a broken bolt where the  ignition switch mounts....Larry

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 08:37:42 AM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

I have one if you need it:  $10 plus shipping...

I know this is REALLY old, but...do you still have that 400 top tree? I've come up short on my new 350F...

HM  do you need just the top or the entire assembly?  I have an extra set, but there is a broken bolt where the  ignition switch mounts....Larry

I just need the top. How much would you like for it?
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 01:12:28 PM »
Hondaman, check with this guy http://www.motolane.com/

He has a 350F in his yard
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 01:46:57 PM »
a place called stockers in san diego has them in stock....
100 bills though... he seems to be well aware these crack all the time and there is no aftermarket solution.

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 08:23:42 PM »
Hondaman, check with this guy http://www.motolane.com/

He has a 350F in his yard

Thanks: I sent him an e-mail.
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2011, 08:24:33 PM »
a place called stockers in san diego has them in stock....
100 bills though... he seems to be well aware these crack all the time and there is no aftermarket solution.

Once I get my hands on one, there WILL be an aftermarket solution... :)
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 08:39:37 PM »
  Thanks for all the info folks. It's a cafe project, so i plan on switching up the gauges any how.

I have one if you need it:  $10 plus shipping...

I know this is REALLY old, but...do you still have that 400 top tree? I've come up short on my new 350F...

HM  do you need just the top or the entire assembly?  I have an extra set, but there is a broken bolt where the  ignition switch mounts....Larry

I just need the top. How much would you like for it?


HM,,, mine is for the 400f.  Sorry...Larry

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2011, 09:08:24 AM »
a place called stockers in san diego has them in stock....
100 bills though... he seems to be well aware these crack all the time and there is no aftermarket solution.

Once I get my hands on one, there WILL be an aftermarket solution... :)
Do you need one at all for modeling or do you need an uncracked one?
ill mail you my cracked 350 top if you are planning creating a solution for us!

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2011, 10:49:11 PM »
a place called stockers in san diego has them in stock....
100 bills though... he seems to be well aware these crack all the time and there is no aftermarket solution.

Once I get my hands on one, there WILL be an aftermarket solution... :)
Do you need one at all for modeling or do you need an uncracked one?
ill mail you my cracked 350 top if you are planning creating a solution for us!

I'll take you up on that offer: I have a friend with a CNC who would like to get into making billet parts for bikes. There are billet top trees for many of the big sportbikes, selling for $80-$500, depending on fancy. I wish to make one billet top tree with 2 alternate mount holes so it can fit both the 400F and 350F, so it has a shot at the market. It needs to sell about 4 per year to make it, so the costs can be recovered in a reasonable time. After typically 10 units, the costs are covered and the money man is paid back: after that it's a viable 'product'. It went like that with several other products I've developed with other folks, some motorcycle, some not. This one might take a little longer, as there is no "market" to sell into, it just has to spread around by the need. But, there are not a lot of these tree tops around, and they break for lack of proper tightening, so that gives an opening for a superior, wrench-proof version to appear. :)
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 09:55:15 AM »
This thread is wicked old, but for science....How are some of those aftermarket 350F top triple trees coming along!?
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2012, 10:42:29 PM »
This thread is wicked old, but for science....How are some of those aftermarket 350F top triple trees coming along!?

The guy who measured it up for me promptly quit working at our shop, wnet off to another where they work him night & day. He's lost interest now, I think. I'll have to start over with the CMM work, I guess. :(

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2012, 10:50:34 PM »
HM, why don't you check with TTR400?  He's got some great CAD files for 350f and 400f upper triples that are ready to go.  He might be able to steer you in the right direction, or he might just be the right guy to make them for you if he has time.  I have a 350f billet upper from him in my garage that has the correct vertical offset in addition to all the other dimension (most people miss don't do a good job with vertical spacing on these 350Fs.  I'm very impressed with it!

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2012, 09:59:57 PM »
HM, why don't you check with TTR400?  He's got some great CAD files for 350f and 400f upper triples that are ready to go.  He might be able to steer you in the right direction, or he might just be the right guy to make them for you if he has time.  I have a 350f billet upper from him in my garage that has the correct vertical offset in addition to all the other dimension (most people miss don't do a good job with vertical spacing on these 350Fs.  I'm very impressed with it!

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I'll do that! If he's already making them in the right height, maybe I won't worry with it. The only ones I have seen before this were too low, not made right.
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2012, 05:28:02 AM »
If you have the drawing or the old top clamp, broken or not, it could be made.  We have done it for 750 so a 350 could be done.  It won't look like Honda's part but would have the same clamping dimensions.  Can you say billet?  PM me and we can exchange info.  $500 for a complete triple with steering stem.  It would, of course, be less for top only.   Making at least 5 top clamps could reduce cost. 
 
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In need one bad...425-356-9556

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2015, 12:46:21 AM »
You need the 350 or 400?  We were tossing around the idea of making a small run of them when the cnc's get up to speed.   They are finally hooked up but need tuning.

There is a place than makes the 350 top triples but they're are quite proud of them because they look so ($400) nice.

Look for a thread on this subject in high performance and racing and you will find a link to the people who offer them and pictures of the product.

Or wait and see if a run of them get made elsewhere. We were hoping that getting a prototype closer to $200 would generate a demand.
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2015, 03:26:16 AM »
Does anyone have  a roster or a list of names wanting to obtain a triple top for a 350F? If we get a list of people wanting one it could provide a little more assurance to a manufacture right? And I think that is a great idea with setting up a dual 350/400f configuration for the gages and switches. If a price can be established I would be game for a pre order or place a deposit. Have things progressed at all?

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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2015, 06:33:04 AM »
I am happy to help if I can. I have several designs available and am focusing on 750 and GL1000 units but if there is a need I will do my best. Regarding vertical offset, that will likely be out of my realm of ability at this point. I can however, offer variation in design which will hopefully make up for the fact that they won't look like the originals. Here is the thread where you can find out more.
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2015, 01:41:24 AM »
I am happy to help if I can. I have several designs available and am focusing on 750 and GL1000 units but if there is a need I will do my best. Regarding vertical offset, that will likely be out of my realm of ability at this point. I can however, offer variation in design which will hopefully make up for the fact that they won't look like the originals. Here is the thread where you can find out more.
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2015, 05:56:21 AM »
Nope never made one. It just came on my radar that there is a need. I was more focused on bigger bikes and guys doing GL1000 conversions. I have the spread and offset dimensions so it should be easy.
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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2015, 09:36:08 AM »
Nope never made one. It just came on my radar that there is a need. I was more focused on bigger bikes and guys doing GL1000 conversions. I have the spread and offset dimensions so it should be easy.
TT400 only has 400f triples in  stock, but I'll even take that at this point. I would replace my instruments if I have too, so long as my triple doesn't collapse from under. I await his reply on buying one but I'll email him again requesting the CAD file

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2015, 09:43:20 AM »
Nope never made one. It just came on my radar that there is a need. I was more focused on bigger bikes and guys doing GL1000 conversions. I have the spread and offset dimensions so it should be easy.
TT400 only has 400f triples in  stock, but I'll even take that at this point. I would replace my instruments if I have too, so long as my triple doesn't collapse from under. I await his reply on buying one but I'll email him again requesting the CAD file

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2015, 09:46:04 AM »
Any interest in these from other members? Aside from my other designs, here is one I cooked up based on the styling of the smaller bikes, which replicates the stock offset and spread.
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Offline camshaft1991

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2015, 09:54:40 AM »
Any interest in these from other members? Aside from my other designs, here is one I cooked up based on the styling of the smaller bikes, which replicates the stock offset and spread.

I already found a new NOS 400f top for my 350f and it seems to work out well for me, but I was pretty fortunate for finding this jewel. If it weren't for my find on ebay I would have definitely gone with one of your triple tops 

Offline Rayzerman

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Re: cb350F triple tree replacements
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2024, 12:44:22 PM »
Very old thread indeed..... I would like to know if anyone came up with a replacement upper triple for a CB350F.....  thanks in advance.