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Offline youngndumb

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XL 100 top end build up
« on: February 18, 2011, 11:20:43 AM »
I'm currently working on an xl 100, which was parked several years ago because of a top end destruction.  As far as I know, the bottom end is sound, I haven't split it yet but will soon.  I'd love to get a few more ponies out of it, and since  (assuming I go with the stock case) I'm going to have to go with a whole new top end, I'm curious if anyone knows what mods, parts from other bikes, etc, I could use to up the displacement, at least taking it from a baby thumper to a toddler thumper. Thanks for any help,

Chris

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Re: XL 100 top end build up
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 11:31:42 AM »
had a CB100 for first bike and took it ouy to 125 with stock 125 piston and rings, bored the jug. I think you can take them out to 148cc but don't remember what bits.
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Re: XL 100 top end build up
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 12:01:16 PM »
What year XL?  Interchangeability depends a lot on the year.  Early swaps with early, late with late, early to late - not so much.

TONS of info at two different sites - Thumpertalk, in the Vintage sub-forum and The XL Forum, in the XL125 and SL sub-forums.

I've done quite a bit myself, but really need to know the year before I can offer much info.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/?

http://xlboard.aimoo.com/

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Re: XL 100 top end build up
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 01:05:58 PM »
Thanks Kirk, its a 75, with a Dec 74 manufacturing date.

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Re: XL 100 top end build up
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 02:59:14 PM »
Young'n dumb, this is your lucky day!!  That year is the best blank canvas you could have!

For heads, you can use the early single-piece heads which have tremendous porting potential, and can be fitted with larger valves.  There is a very wide selection of aftermarket cams from mild to wild for that head.

You can also go with the later 2-piece heads that came with larger better ports and larger valves right from the factory, and still have potential.  There is a slightly less-wide selection of cams for those heads, primarily because those heads aren't legal in most of the vintage race classes, so they kinda get ignored for track use.

If you go with the later heads, all you have to do is use the cam chain and tensioners from the laters years because the cam sits a bit closer to the deck in the later heads, which means those later pieces are a bit shorter.

As for bore and stroke, Powroll offers several big-bore choices, including higher compression versions.  They also offer stroke services that, combined, will give you nearly 200cc!!

It is also possible to mix 'n match other odd pistons (SOHC 750 pistons) with custom bores and get 140 ~ 150cc, but I don't remember the specific details.  Search those other sites I mentioned.

The 2 biggest problems with the 100 is that it has a 1mm smaller-diameter wrist pin than the 125, and I think a couple of those big-bore kits require the larger diameter pin.  You may have to go with a 125 crank 'n rod to bring that off on your 100.  The 2nd problem is that most of those big-bore kits require the 100 cases to be bored slightly to accomodate the larger cylinder sleeve.  Not impossible, just another thing to chase down.

All the stuff is readily available online and, really, your wallet is the limit... 

Good luck with it, whichever way you go, and be sure to post back with your plan!

Kirk

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Re: XL 100 top end build up
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 05:55:58 PM »
Many thanks Kirk, its always great to know there's such a helpful community out there, willing to readily offer information learned over the years to youngsters like myself. I'll keep you posted with how it goes.

Chris