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Offline Gaither

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Front running lights go OFF with turn sigs ON
« on: February 16, 2011, 02:09:17 PM »
FWIW

This might help someone [?]. It would have saved me an hour of hunting.

***The front "Running Light" goes OFF when the turn sig goes ON!***

Suddenly, I lost the L F turn sig - again! ALL other lights functioned normally - including the L R turn sig. I fugured "bad ground" from a previous identical problem but I have a recent "Popwood ground".

I searched thru a lot of Posts! Found a guy who had fixed a similar problem by cleaning the headlight mounting bolt to improve the ground. Made sense since the green (ground) wire soldered on the nut inside the bucket is where I spliced the "Popwood ground". To complicate matters, I had a painted windshield bracket next to the chrome headlight bracket - possibly preventing a good ground. That was IT! (Although it worked OK for several months after I installed the "Popwood ground".)

I cleaned the bolt and put a steel washer between the 2 brackets. Turn sig fixed!

I had the lense off the running/turn sig light. Now, with the turn sig on and working, the running light filament in the bulb wasn't burning. Checked the wire in the headlight bucket and it was dead. The running light was burning when I started. 'Couldn't figure what happened to the running light!

I finally turned the turn sig off and the running light came back on. I just didn't know they were switched that way. NOW I know!

Just another FWIW.

OH, HOW I HATE WIRING!!!   
Gaither ('77 CB550F)

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Re: Front running lights go OFF with turn sigs ON
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 06:06:07 PM »
Just curious, or maybe I've been living in a cave, but WTH is a "popwood ground" Never heard that one before.  :-\

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Re: Front running lights go OFF with turn sigs ON
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011, 07:47:11 PM »
+1 popwood???

Offline Gaither

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Re: Front running lights go OFF with turn sigs ON
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2011, 08:42:36 PM »
First, I know nothing about these ol' bikes other than what I have learned from the great, helpful folks on this Forum.

**Simply put, a "Popwood ground" is a new ground wire spliced into either (only one is used) of the 2 green ground wires that are soldered to the large nuts inside the headlight bucket to a coil mounting bolt (use a ring connector). Clean the area on the frame around the bolt to clean metal.

The beauty of it is that you don't have to search out and clean each and every other orig ground connections (lazy man's solution). And, it works. **You still need to clean both ends of the ground connections on the battery cable and perhaps other on as "as required " basis.

I got into this when, suddenly, I had no headlight and no L F Turn Sig after both were working properly the night before. The "Popwood" corrected the problem immediately.

Further, as most know (and I finally learned) wiring connectors have been accumulating corrosion for 30 or more years of neglect. From what little I have learned, ALL "gang" connectors (plastic housed) and fuse clips need to be cleaned well. Pack the "gang" connectors with dielectric grease to retard future corrosion. Use a .22 cal bore brush to clean the fuse clips - makes 'em bright and clean with no damage (make sure the clips grip the fuses tightly).

**It is best to do these things BEFORE you start having connection failures or blown fuses. Otherwise, it is just a matter of when (not if) you'll have trouble.

In my ignorance, I waited until my 550 was useless before I did these things. Now, she runs like a top. So, I still appreciate the good advice I got from folks here.
Gaither ('77 CB550F)