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Offline Papa O

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Rings
« on: September 15, 2011, 12:43:16 PM »
Anybody have a source for STD rings for a 78 cb750K??
Everywhere I check they are out of stock.
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http://olypen.com/retro/    Washington State/ Vintage Honda Parts/  Nice folks.

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Thanks for any help you can provide
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Re: Rings
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 02:05:06 PM »
go to a good piston/ring supplier you never know what they can come up with. my 79 XL250S has a 3rd oversize slipper piston, a limited run from years ago, local firm found a match with a suzuki cars rings.
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Re: Rings
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 04:02:35 PM »
Thanks I know two guys who build automotive racing engines. Never even crossed my mind to check with them. I know TRW makes a set.....MAYBE
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Re: Rings
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 04:16:13 PM »
I am on the search for 1978K rings as well...I'll keep you posted

Speaking of rings...do rings vary greatly in quality? Are they better brand or brands to watch out for?
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Re: Rings
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 04:20:59 PM »
I was having the same issue. I ordered some off of e-bay.... some no namers and they didn't fit properly. I like to stick with OEM as much as possible, here's a site that I have come across and I've sourced out a pile of OEM parts including the rings.

www.mrcycles.com I checked for you and they still have them:

in my mind $33 isn't bad for an OEM set. Good luck and hopefully this helps.

01 RING SET (STD)  13011-374-000  004 $33.49
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Re: Rings
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 04:23:09 PM »
I am on the search for 1978K rings as well...I'll keep you posted

Speaking of rings...do rings vary greatly in quality? Are they better brand or brands to watch out for?

I might have helped you out. I ordered some no name rings off e-bay but they didn't fit properly
77 CB550k, Finally completed after 3 long years of a complete teardown and rebuild/modification
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Re: Rings
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 07:55:56 PM »
Thanks Looks like the OEM is the best way to go!! Their price is better than my local dealer by a bunch.Thanks
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Re: Rings
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2011, 08:26:52 AM »
No problem! always glad to help out!
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Re: Rings
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2011, 11:27:21 AM »
If the 78 K uses the thinner F2/F3 rings then contact member wohali. The reason they may be "out of stock" is they may have been discontinued by Honda.
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Re: Rings
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 11:47:38 AM »
Thanks everyone...Dumb question: how do I know what Rings I need?

I am 99% sure my engine is stock so I guess it is the: 01 RING SET (STD)  13011-374-000  004 $33.49

But why are there 4 options?



Is that just for each piston and they are all the same?

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Re: Rings
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 12:14:04 PM »
The way i read that is simply they have all been replaced by  -004 and that's what you'll get if you try to order the others.

The way honda part numbers work: 13011=ring set; 374 = bike model;  004 =modification

If you think you need 374, and they are listing 392, I'd have to be sure they are interchangeable. In other words 392 is not the same motorcycle as 374.
According to this (scroll down to product code link and open it) 374=CB550; 392 = CB750F/76

http://www.groupwracing.com/hondapartnumbers.html
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Re: Rings
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 12:15:49 PM »
You're probably OK with the 392s for the 78K. But you mentioned 374 which threw me.

Yes i see in the codebook, 78K is 405, which your post shows has been replaced by the 392s. So you're OK.
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Re: Rings
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
You are the best SOHC Forums! Thank you thank you  :D

I have never installed rings in my life...do you think I should get 5 sets just incase?
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