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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2011, 09:10:11 PM »
can a mod step in and lock this thread its getting know where just pissing people off... ;)
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2011, 09:16:14 PM »
My buddy's stock CR 1000 had a very nice sounding exhaust. My 750 can be obnoxious at full throttle and high revs, but I try to be courteous when I am in residential areas. I do not back up against the curb in front of the bar and crank the throttle wide open, as I have seen done at Jerome. Jerks are jerks, whether on a bike or in a Chevy truck with no mufflers...  
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2011, 10:15:51 PM »
I call bull#$%*e on  TT only having heard 2 quiet Harleys.. I mean where in North America could you ride for at least a year without riding past at least (stock exhaust) 2 E'Glides or cop H-D's ?..
San Jose California.  And, that was over several years time.  Cops and Highway patrol don't use Harleys around here.  They were Kz1000's, BMWs, and lately, Honda St1300s.

I think its more like you are not noticing the quiet ones..

Maybe they drove by while I wasn't on the road and I didn't see them.   But, not while I was riding.  I look at all the bikes (and other vehicles) on the highway, sort of like my life depends on it.

Case and point, acquaintance at work bought a new Harley, in 1991.  Dealer had to sell it to him with stock exhaust (legal reasons).  I never got a chance to hear it in stock form.  One week after he bought it, it was back in the shop getting a louder exhaust.  I never rode with him again it was so annoying.  He flat told me that at all the bike rallies, poker runs, and other events he attended, Harley owners would ridicule other Harley owners if their bike had quiet stock exhaust.  I also asked him if I might go to one of the ride events with my Honda.  He said yeah, but you'll catch a lot of grief and ridicule about driving a Japanese bike and be asked to keep well to the rear of the procession.

Another case was a different coworker selling his Honda V65 (I very nearly bought that one) to get a Harley Fat boy 1994-ish, I think).  Stock pipes lasted one week.  He drove it home where it sat until the shop schedule was open, to bring it back for louder exhaust.  Fortunately, he just bought it for status.  In the three years I knew him after the purchase, he didn't put 700 miles on it.  Still, he bought right in to the "Only Harleys are real motorcycles" BS.

Don't tell me that their aren't any snob Harley owners.   I've encountered more than a few.

FYI, I don't hate Harleys.  I like machines in general, Harleys included.  I was always looking for a basket case to resurrect.  But, for the price even basket cases were selling for, I could get 3 running bikes that weren't Harleys.  And, several of my bikes were just given to me.  The MOST I ever paid to drag home a motorcycle was $500 (CB750F.)  It was also the only one I could actually drive home.  Try getting a Harley for $500! (legally).

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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2011, 10:26:48 PM »
 What I had said was there was plenty of snobs on both sides..

 I agree a lot of people on all makes, like to change the exhaust.

 Saw a slipon shootout in a sportbike mag a few weeks back, there was 15-20 makers of  aftermarket cans for the bike they tested.. so it is definitely being done a lot..
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2011, 10:33:52 PM »
In my youth i hung with all types of bikers, i have been at a couple where the Harley guys took great pride in burning a Jap bike for fun, never went to a party where anyone burned a Harley.  I love the way the touchy feely types jump in any time someone criticises a Harley or its rider and turn the thread into a #$%* fight. Storm in a tea cup if you ask me.....Its a little naive thinking that everyone must like everything just to keep the status quo. In my experience, plenty of egotistical morons ride Harley's, not all but there's definitely plenty and plenty that will tell anyone that will listen that anything from Japan is CRAP.....Is that violins i here in the background..... ;D
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2011, 10:37:55 PM »
Saw a slipon shootout in a sportbike mag a few weeks back, there was 15-20 makers of  aftermarket cans for the bike they tested.. so it is definitely being done a lot..

So, do you really wonder why noise laws come to the fore, then?  How many times will you tolerate getting poked in the eye (or ear) ever more forcefully, before you get fed up and do something about it?

Many biker's just don't get the concept of moderation, only "beyond the limit" appeals to them.  So, the limits have to be defined for them.

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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2011, 10:42:22 PM »
If you choose to ride a motorcycle that's commonly associated with wannabe "outlaw" bikers and weekend/bar-hopping, "look at me I'm cool and bad-ass and have a really loud bike, but don't look at me because I'm mean and I'll kick your ass and I don't care if I'm bothering you" bikers, then you need to get used to hearing or reading less-than-supportive remarks about your chosen brand of bike.  

Arguing with people on the internet isn't going to change a stereotype based on decades of evidence.  You know what may?  Riding your bike responsibly, and relatively quietly, and encouraging your fellow H-D riders to do the same. Good luck with that, though.  There is no shortage of #$%*s, and unfortunately for responsible H-D riders, many of those #$%*s flock to the "bad boy" image that Harley actively encourages and cultivates.  You're swimming against the current.  

Enjoy your ride, and don't worry about what other people think.  If you're not one of the obnoxiously loud bike owners, then nobody's talking about you anyway.  If you find yourself getting offended, then perhaps it's because they are talking about you.  




And now that we have both a "loud pipes save lives" debate and a "harley-bashing" debate going in one thread, let's go ahead and pile on an oil and a gun thread while we're at it. ;D  

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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2011, 10:46:17 PM »
The thing with Harley's is that their exhaust not is very deep, lower frequencies penetrate more than higher frequencies, remove the baffle and it just gets worse. I live 1 street parallel to a main road, when the Harley boys go past, not only is it loud, it shakes the house which is a direct result of the booming lower frequencies, just like those annoying twats with massive bass speakers in their cars, Jap bikes, even with race pipes will not have this effect.
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2011, 10:52:11 PM »
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And now that we have both a "loud pipes save lives" debate and a "harley-bashing" debate going in one thread, let's go ahead and pile on an oil and a gun thread while we're at it. ;D  

would Harley oil make my gun louder??

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« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2011, 10:56:31 PM »
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And now that we have both a "loud pipes save lives" debate and a "harley-bashing" debate going in one thread, let's go ahead and pile on an oil and a gun thread while we're at it. ;D  

would Harley oil make my gun louder??


no but gun oil might make your harley louder.......















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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2011, 10:59:06 PM »
.......
And now that we have both a "loud pipes save lives" debate and a "harley-bashing" debate going in one thread, let's go ahead and pile on an oil and a gun thread while we're at it. ;D  

would Harley oil make my gun louder??



That's a good question.  To find out, go find the nearest Harley, scoop up some of the oil from the pool underneath it, and put it on your gun.  








Yep...  I went there.


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« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2011, 11:02:15 PM »
 and here I thought it was all them loud piped.. street-fighter sportbike types, doing wheelies and speeding thru traffic, and putting videos on Youtube.. that were the cause of the problems with the law... :o   :o..
 ..who knew..... :-\
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2011, 11:04:48 PM »
Read my last post Frank, 10 sports bikes are not as penetrating as 1 Harley, cmon man, i now your not that naive..... :P
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2011, 11:10:05 PM »
and here I thought it was all them loud piped.. street-fighter sportbike types, doing wheelies and speeding thru traffic, and putting videos on Youtube.. that were the cause of the problems with the law... :o   :o..
 ..who knew..... :-\

Could be part of it, and I'm sure the ratio varies depending on where you are, but in my experience for every obnoxiously loud crotch rocket I see/hear, there are at least a dozen obnoxiously loud V-twins.  And even if some of them aren't harleys, you know they wish they were. ;)

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« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2011, 11:11:10 PM »
its all about DB's when it comes to sound travel . thats why you feel it in your feet when a harley goes by. and why you dont feel it when a sport bike goes by even with exhaust. the wheelies and speeding have nothing to do with the sound..so dont even bring that into it.


you have a harley
you have a sport bike

both are running pipes..

harley shakes your house and nabourhood
sport bike sure its loud but it doesnt have the deep rumbe to shake a house
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« Reply #65 on: March 08, 2011, 11:14:11 PM »
 I have spent a lot of time on a CB 750 or +,  with open Hooker and RC headers, and my highpipe with  open megaphone, it is not what anyyone ever described as quiet...
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« Reply #66 on: March 08, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »
 I used to be part of the problem...

 nowadays, I try to be part of the solution..
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2011, 11:20:46 PM »
I used to be part of the problem...

 nowadays, I try to be part of the solution..



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« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2011, 11:23:19 PM »
I used to be part of the problem...

 nowadays, I try to be part of the solution..

in the end its all about respecting your town and you have to remember that not everyone is a motorcycle enthusiast...so keeping yourself on the DL helps us all in the end
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2011, 11:24:55 PM »
that was generalized towards all motorcyclists
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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2011, 12:49:55 AM »
Enough is enough I think...
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« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2011, 05:21:57 AM »
OK. I have relented and will unlock this thread with a warning.

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« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2011, 05:52:06 AM »
can a mod step in and lock this thread its getting know where just pissing people off... ;)

You know you are walking a fine line between being almost as bad as the censorship people, and I always tell them if you don't approve don't watch the channel!!!!!!!

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« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2011, 05:55:55 AM »
OK. I have relented and will unlock this thread with a warning.

"You have been warned"

Any more fighting and I'll delete the lot.

Not an American, but what Amendment is it.... oh that's right the 1st Amendment Free Speech.  Wasn't your actions un-Constitutional?

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Re: Noise bylaw - is this a Canadian issue only???
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2011, 06:07:32 AM »
This is a bike forum - not a state.

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