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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - An essay: Fun with acid (no, not Windowpane...)
« Reply #250 on: September 08, 2014, 05:29:58 PM »
SohRon

When you said  "the finish parameters required a black field be painted over the orange" does that mean the entire tank is painted orange and then the black is applied over it? Curious as I am about to have a body shop paint my 75 CB550 tank, coincidentally, Sunrise Orange. Keep up the great work and can't wait to see the rest of your post.

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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - An essay: Fun with acid (no, not Windowpane...)
« Reply #251 on: September 10, 2014, 05:42:46 PM »
When you said  "the finish parameters required a black field be painted over the orange" does that mean the entire tank is painted orange and then the black is applied over it? Curious as I am about to have a body shop paint my 75 CB550 tank, coincidentally, Sunrise Orange. Keep up the great work and can't wait to see the rest of your post.



Hank - Black over orange is SOP for painting these tanks. Are you using the Vintage Honda Paint paints? I'm very pleased with the results on my tank, and that's where I got mine. Was told by the painter that I got a very good deal on the paint as it would have cost much more from different suppliers. Just curious!  ;D
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Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/clutch
« Reply #252 on: September 15, 2014, 08:43:19 AM »
In this update I'll be installing the wiring harness and clutch cable. They are mounted using the same wiring bands, so it's best to do them both at the same time. In addition, we'll fit the remainder of the peripheral parts

But first, I should mention a couple of changes I've made to the thread due to new information I've run across that shows I incorrectly installed one of the boots (or covers) in the previous post; that being the cover for the tail light wiring bundle. Yeah, I know it's not a critical part, but since we're trying to do things "by the book" I figured it would be best to have it done as Honda designed it to be. With that in mind, I've removed one of the pics and some text that depicted the incorrect location of the boot - you can go back and take a look if you think you really need to, but we'll be addressing that part later on in this post...

Another change I've made is way back in the front brake installation. There's a clip that's installed with the brake "joint" that I indicated was used to route the clutch cable; it's actually used for routing the speedo cable, so I made that change to the text. Live and learn...



On to the update. Here are the wiring harness and clutch cable, along with the mounting bands, a "J" shaped wiring support and, to the right, the clutch switch with its mounting clip



To start the build, I'll mount the clutch switch into the left switch pod. This is a safety feature that allows the bike to be started only when the clutch is disengaged. After the clutch lever is removed, the switch wire threads through a hole in the lever mount...




...the switch being inserted fully into the housing where a small tab on the switch body (below inset) fits into a slot cut into the lever support




The clutch cable and lever are then installed, and the cable and switch wire are joined together with a plastic clip (inset) that keeps the two from flopping around in the wind





With this preliminary step completed, I turned my attention to the main wiring harness. It's a new OEM harness from David Silver Spares made by TEK, so I'm hoping everything fits and works as it should...

I started out by laying the harness roughly in position along the frame. Installation begins by removing the front coil mount bolt and inserting it through the large green ground wire lug, after which the bolt is re-installed (below left). Its important that this bolt is tight as this wire supplies grounding for the entire electrical system (all the green wires lead to here)




The coil and horn leads are then connected to the harness (above right). Note that the horn wire is routed behind the down tube rather than in front...

Once all of the connections have been made, they're held in position using this flat "J" shaped stamped aluminum hanger clip, shown here with a tank mount rubber




The hanger is concave at its mounting end, and is inserted down over the tank mount on the frame with the concave portion fitting over the base of the mount; this also orients the curve of the "J" inboard roughly toward the centerline of the frame. The coil and horn connections are then bundled together and collected inside the curved portion of the hanger (below left)...


...and the tank rubber is inserted down over its mount, holding everything in place (above right). On the "F" models, the wiring connections actually run under the frame and are collected inside a small box mounted beneath the coils. The "J" hanger is still used, but the curve is reversed and it acts to hold the wiring harness itself...


From here on out, the wiring harness and clutch cable will be mounted to the frame using stamped aluminum cable ties (Honda likes to call them "bands"). They're different sizes: the longer, wider tie, measuring 7X3/8", is referred to as "Band B1" (or simply, the "B" band); the shorter tie, measuring 5 1/8X5/16" is called "Band A2" (band "A") (below upper)



These OEM bands were originally coated with Rubber Dip (similar to Plasti-Dip). They're no longer available in this form from Honda, who has substituted a narrower band in place of band "B", and a black plastic band for the "A" band (above lower). Additionally, they've stopped actually dipping the bands in rubber dip and, instead, are now using wire sleeve in its place. I like this idea. The OEM bands are relatively easy to find in ebay auctions, but on most of them the rubber coating has deteriorated and is either pretty beat up or is missing altogether. Using Honda's lead, the original metal bands can be straightened and the rubber covering replaced with 7mm sleeving for the "A" bands, and 9mm for the "B" bands. Other clips and straps originally given a rubber coat can be resurrected using larger diameter sleeve, such as the wiring hanger and HT clips, which can be covered using 11mm sleeving (below)



At this point in time, this nice, shiny black wire sleeving can be found at "Vintage Connections.com" for a reasonable price per foot.



To install the harness, I'll be following the wiring diagrams that are printed in the Honda Shop manual (find these in your Clymer's   ;)). Here are copies of the diagrams, once again shamelessly purloined from the manual (click on diagrams to expand to full size):






Again, it's stuff like this that compels me to urge you to pick up the official Honda Shop Manual. Clymer's is OK as far as it goes, but adding the Honda manual to your reference is like going up a click on a 3-way bulb: much more info is suddenly available. Download it or, better yet, get a hard copy you can actually fondle and smear grease all over!


The first tie we'll install is a "B" band, and it wraps around the front left downtube, capturing both the main harness and (behind the downtube) the horn sub-harness




Now, if you're following a parts fiche it might indicate an "A" band in this location. Fact is, one of them just isn't long enough to reach around the tube and wiring bundles, so I'm fitting a "B" band here. There are a couple of other places where I will deviate from the fiche - you can decide for yourself if I'm wrong or not.


The next tie is installed farther down the frame and wraps around the "backbone" behind the coils. It captures the main harness and ignition switch "dongle" as well as the clutch cable, so it really does triple duty. Unfortunately, neither of the bands is long enough to accomplish all of this on its own, so what Honda did was to take two "A" bands and splice them together (inset below) which creates a long enough band to do the job. Here it is on the wiring harness side, with the main switch already connected...




...and this is how it captures the clutch cable on the right side of the frame. The cable routes around the headstock in front of all of the other cables and wires (see above diagram), then down between the forks, under the tank mount and up to the top of the frame, where it's held in place by the wiring band assembly




Back on the left (harness) side, the harness tucks down under the frame "backbone" and continues on toward the back of the bike. When it reaches the electrical panel triangle several things happen at once: the harness kind of "dives" down under the cross brace and routes along the top of the electrical panel, where it's held in position using a couple of "A" bands: the first routes down through a hole stamped into the frame gusset...




...while the second band supports the harness farther down the frame tube, just before the frame brace.




At this point, all of the connections to the electrical panel are made. The connectors for the fuse box and SSM tuck away behind the panel, atop the inner fender. Something to note in the bottom left portion of the pic is the stator sub-harness and the starter motor lead, which come up off the engine. The stator harness routes in front of the downtube while the starter lead snakes around behind, and both are fixed in place with an "A" band.




Meanwhile, a wiring extension takes off at a tangent from the main harness and routs under the frame gusset to the right side of the bike. Here's a blow-up from the routing diagram that demonstrates this (dotted lines)




It carries wiring for the brake pedal switch and the ignition points. Once in position, it and the clutch cable are secured to the frame via a "B" band that wraps around the frame tube and through another hole in the frame gusset




Here's a shot from above, showing the bands and their locations; compare it to the diagrams above. At top is the "B" band holding the clutch cable and wiring harness extension, while at bottom we have the two "A" bands holding the main harness in position



Something else to notice in the above pic is the positive battery cable (on the right). It's connected to the solenoid, then extends across the bike between the air box and rear inner fender to the battery box.


Next, I installed the rear brake switch and spring. The switch fits down into a mount welded onto the downtube, and the spring connects to a tab on the brake pedal




The switch wiring is routed around in front of the downtube and, along with the points leads from the engine, are connected to the harness extension (below inset). The connections are then covered with a rubber shield, and the whole assembly is tucked away between the battery box and air box where it's held in position with an "A" band around the frame tube




Still on the right side of the bike, the clutch cable snakes down between the intakes for cyls 3 and 4 and connects with the rear engine mount at a curled section of the mount formed to accept it. The cable shield threads fit down into the mount, where it's held for adjustment by the lower adjuster nut, while the cable itself attaches to the clutch lever via a clevis on the end of the lever




Once the cable is attached, the clutch mechanism is given a "preload" by turning the clutch adjuster screw on the clutch cover in a counter-clockwise direction until the marks punched into the actuator lever and the clutch cover are in alignment (above inset). This forces a long lever inside the clutch cover to make contact with the clutch rod; final adjustment is then made using the adjusters on the cable and at the lever on the handlebar.

Here's a shot of the clutch cable installation. Notice the fairly exaggerated "hump" between the cable ties. It should reach to the center of the frame (and a bit beyond) when the cable is laid flat against the frame. It's covered by the tank and insures smooth operation of the clutch mechanism.




Returning to the left side of the bike and the wiring harness, the "tail" of the harness routes up between the rear frame brace and the inner fender. There's a rubber boot that fits over the connectors; you'll want to install it before routing the harness as it's a major PITA to try to install once everything is in place. Talking from experience, here...




Once the connectors are routed, the wiring harness installation is completed by making the tail light and rear turn signal connections




And here is a shot of the installed main harness




So I'm calling this episode done for now. I've got the harness in place along with most of the major components; any that are left over will be covered in the next couple of posts. Things are starting to come together and it looks like this project is nearing its end. Glory Hallelujah!



'til next time
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 10:04:42 AM by SohRon »
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #253 on: September 15, 2014, 08:53:27 AM »
This thread just keeps getting more impressive! Amazing build and amazing documentation.

A back-in-the-day Honda Tech would have killed for such a rich resource. I mean, look at the Factory Manual cartoons he had to work with vs the full-color, high-res close-ups you give us!

Thanks again for your hard work.
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #254 on: September 15, 2014, 10:13:42 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement, Mike. And welcome to the forum!
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Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #255 on: September 15, 2014, 08:07:38 PM »
The detail and dedication to stock restoration are incredibly impressive, Ron.
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #256 on: September 15, 2014, 08:30:38 PM »
Your really helping my motivation on my 500, 550 builds!  Thanks man!
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #257 on: September 17, 2014, 06:20:33 PM »
Another great episode, Ron.  Will you attempt start up this year?
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #258 on: September 17, 2014, 07:58:53 PM »
SR thanks for your efforts, your documentation is a gift to all builders that'll keep on giving for a long time. Many future builders will gain from your doco.

BTW as you used all your old bolts, I'm waiting on getting all my 500's washers (I might still get copper washers), nuts and bolts back from being re-zinced.

I agree with your advise and 6 months ago I printed the Honda Workshop Manual out (available from this forum), it's been placed in a clip folder (so you can take out the pages you need), it's plenty greasy as it should be.

Looking forward to the next installments and then seeing you ride  probably the best resto'd 550 in the world.

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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #259 on: September 22, 2014, 05:20:41 PM »
To all who have replied, thanks! I've been away and haven't had a chance to keep up with the forum... we did our yearly camp outing and I'm pleased to say that this year nobody broke anything! Hoorah!

Café, Two stroke and Mick, I appreciate the encouragement and am always glad to hear that the thread has been useful... that's the name of the game, of course!  ;D

Stev-o, I hope to get it  up and running this fall. I'm closer to finished than the thread shows, so it is likely to happen soon! I ordered a tank kit from Caswell, and as soon as I get that taken care of she'll be pretty much ready to go.

Thanks to all who keep up with my insanity; I appreciate the support.
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Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #260 on: September 22, 2014, 05:30:43 PM »
SohRon do you mind doing one of your great detailed write ups for the caswell liner? I ordered mine today and am freaking out about possibly ruining my tank.

BTW thanks, I got the tank!
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #261 on: September 22, 2014, 05:33:10 PM »
What an awesome thread.

I've been very pleased with my Caswell lined tank.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #262 on: September 22, 2014, 06:01:50 PM »

I've been very pleased with my Caswell lined tank.

Me too, two tanks here.
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #263 on: October 15, 2014, 02:24:54 PM »
Incredible detail as always!

I used shrink tubing also to replace the missing plastic from the aluminum ties.
Yamiya sells real aluminum ties but like everything from them they are pricy.
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=185_96&products_id=839

That little grey clip for the clutch interlock cable may break on you.
I went through a couple before I just gave up.
I think they were "OOS" (old old stock) and were brittle from age.
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 3: Main Harness/Clutch
« Reply #264 on: October 19, 2014, 07:43:03 AM »
Subscribed.  Excellent detail.
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Throttle installation
« Reply #265 on: October 19, 2014, 01:34:05 PM »
Thanks for the comments, guys. I appreciate it!

Yamiya sells real aluminum ties but like everything from them they are pricy... ...That little grey clip for the clutch interlock cable may break on you.
I went through a couple before I just gave up.
I think they were "OOS" (old old stock) and were brittle from age


CR, those bands appear to be the same thing Honda is selling, down to the use of plastic sleeving for the covers. BikeBandit carries them as well, though I'm not sure they're any cheaper there...

The little plastic clip seemed to be pretty flexible to me; maybe they broke down and cast a new batch! Ya think?   :D


SohRon do you mind doing one of your great detailed write ups for the caswell liner?

CRF, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I'm having enough trouble completing the work I've started to take on a new project! I'll let you know how it goes, though!





On to the update. I've been preparing a post for a while but it was just getting too long and picture heavy so I've decided to split it up to ease the bandwidth. In this section I'll begin with the throttle installation so that those of you that have been holding their breath can finally let go.  ;D


Here's a shot of the throttle components all laid out for your perusal



Shown above are the grip, throttle tube, the push and pull cables and, kind of in the middle right, a little assembly of parts known as the "Throttle Adjuster Screw" that appears only on the '74 model CB550.It's a real curiosity and, in fact, it's where I'll begin the install.

Here are the parts that make up the "Throttle Adjuster Screw": a screw, spring and a small half-moon shaped flat spring. It resides in the throttle section of the throttle/switch pod. After the switch pod is opened, the moon-shaped flat spring fits down into a recess in the bottom of the switch case with the curve oriented toward the throttle pipe (below, lower right), and the screw and coil spring are inserted from underneath, making adjustment of the flat spring possible (below, upper left). The moon-shaped spring should be covered with a film of grease, not shown here for clarity




There has been a lot of speculation in the forums as to exactly what this is, ranging all the way from a cruise control to a grip stabilizer. I've been told it's used to keep the engine at specific RPMs during tune-up procedures (which is entirely possible); others like to use it to keep a balky engine running during warm-up. Here's what HondaMan (a veteran Honda mechanic) has to say:


"Back in [the day], I heard lots of 'reasons' for it, the most common being that the bellcrank carbs have such a strong spring that it was (is) indeed difficult to hold 75 MPH for a long ride. Honda worried that it needed the strong spring in case the throttle slides get sticky, while the PR Department worried it was too much for the 'average' rider. It was too much for me: the whole first year I had my K1 I used the screw on "slow drag assist' all the time while my right arm grew enough to return tennis balls in matches against the school champs (without ever actually practicing...). When I got the K2 and found the spring to be even STRONGER, I immediately removed it, stretched it to 9" length, then put it back in. It's still that way. :D

Chopper riders of the era simply took the spring off and threw it as far as they could...then the DOT made Honda remove the Throttle Stop Screw altogether in late 1973. It was just another government buttinski move against Honda in those days.

It did spawn a whole industry of throttle assist devices, though."


Here are a couple of pages from the CB750 Shop Manual that explain its use a little more technically:





It's not really suggested for use as a cruise control and, in my humble opinion, you're "cruising" for a Darwin Award if you do; it's too fussy and awkward to fiddle with while in motion and just isn't practical. As HondaMan said, there's a "whole industry of throttle assist devices" out there to choose from specifically aimed at the task.


Back to business. With the Throttle Adjustment screw installed, I turned to the throttle pipe and cables. The grip is fitted onto the throttle pipe, which is then mounted to the handlebar. The bar should be lightly greased - especially at the open end that fits into a "pocket" in the OEM grips - to ensure smooth travel of the throttle pipe. With the pipe and grip in place, the cables can be added.

Here's a close-up of the cables (the ends, at least). Below left are the bar end connectors - the "pull" cable on the left and the "push" cable on the right. The "pull" cable is adjustable while the "push" cable is not




Above right, we have the carb end connections with, once again, the "pull" cable on the left and the "push" cable on the right. Again, the "pull" cable is fully adjustable while the "push" cable is mounted solidly in place...


I'll begin the installation with the "pull" cable. The cable shield fitting is threaded and screws into the front hole in the lower switch housing, where it's locked in place with a nut; I'm leaving it loose for now to aid with cable routing. I threaded the fitting in about a third of the way to set a preliminary adjustment; I can then move it in or out as needed as I progress with fitting the cable.

The "push" cable is positioned next; it's inserted into the switch body and is held in place via a threaded ferrule that's part of the cable fitting. Again, I'm leaving it loosely attached for now; once everything is in place and working correctly, I'll run up the ferrule until it's snug




Now that the cables are attached the ends are inserted into the throttle pipe




I've added a bit of grease to the cable ends to ensure smooth operation of the cable within the throttle pipe guides. With everything in place, I installed the switch cover and buttoned the switch pod up using two screws




So, here's where the real fun begins and, of course, I'm referring to cable routing. The first step, before doing anything else, is to make sure that the carbs are free and snap back from an open to closed position on their own. Just lift the bellcrank and let it snap shut. Reports of sluggish throttle response can sometimes be traced to sticking slides or a stretched return spring, so it's a good idea to test them out before getting the cables involved.

After verifying correct functioning of the carbs, the throttle cables are ready for routing. The main thing to remember is that they run pretty much behind everything. Once the cables are connected at the throttle, they're routed toward the left where they dive down between the gauge mounts on the upper steering yoke




Note that the cables run behind the brake hose and handlebar wiring and, at this point, I've oriented the "pull" cable to the top (outside). As the cables make their way around the headstock they cross and their positions are reversed so that the "push" cable is on top as they're routed under the tank mount, past the wiring harness and between the coils. The "pull" cable is actually a bit longer than the "push" cable in order to accomplish this routing...




...which is necessary to minimize the angle the "push" cable has to take as it plunges downward to the bellcrank stay. Having the "pull" cable on top at this point can force the cables to form a sharply angled "Y" at the bellcrank which has the potential for both interfering with cable movement and shortening the life of the cable




With the cables in position (the "push" cable is installed first) I adjusted the throttle according to the manual, then tightened all of the loose nuts down. I tested throttle movement by moving the handlebar from lock to lock, making sure the throttle snapped closed in all positions - especially in the full right hand position, as that puts the most strain on the throttle cables.

So, even though this seems like a short post, I'll be calling it done for now. The next episode will cover installation of the gauges and complete the electrical procedures. That should be coming soon, so stay tuned!  ;)


'til next time
« Last Edit: October 19, 2014, 01:54:46 PM by SohRon »
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Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Throttle installation
« Reply #266 on: October 25, 2014, 10:57:23 AM »
The time and effort you're putting in to this build and more impressive , the time and effort you're putting into documenting this build is truly incredible. Thank you.

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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - Electrical System Pt 4
« Reply #267 on: November 02, 2014, 02:55:22 PM »
The time and effort you're putting in to this build and more impressive , the time and effort you're putting into documenting this build is truly incredible. Thank you


You're welcome, Crgsti. I appreciate the encouragement!


Lots to do this post, so it's on to the next order of business, which is installation of the gauges. Here they are in an exploded view along with their mounting hardware. At left top are the gauges (or clocks, if you prefer), fully restored. Below them are the gauge cushions and the gauge mount "pans" (aka "cans")


 
On the right, at the top, is the gauge mounting bracket followed by the bracket mounting hardware: two each nuts, split washers and plain washers. Next, we find the hardware for mounting the gauge pans to the bracket: four each washers, split washers, nuts and mounting bolts. All of these nuts, washers and bolts (including the bracket mounting hardware) were originally anodized or Japanned black at the factory; I hit them with a shot of POR-15 Blackcote and they look good as new.

Below those is a grouping of several small rubber grommets. On the left is the grommet for the speedo trip-meter knob, then two lighting sub-harness grommets, followed by four mounts that fit between the gauges and gauge mount pans. At the bottom are four each chrome washers and acorn nuts that are used to mount the gauges to the pans. And, finally, to the right are the lighting wire sub-harnesses.



Assembling all of these parts into an operational gauge cluster is pretty straight forward, so I'm not really going to get into it here. I do have a couple of pointers I'd like to share, though...

When I dis-assembled these gauges initially, three out of the four gauge mount bolts were loose and fell out of the pans as I withdrew the gauges. They're meant to be captured by a couple of small tabs inside the pans; this makes removing and installing each gauge to the gauge bracket easier. My particular bolts either didn't get properly swaged in at the factory or loosened up with use over the years, so I refit them before re-installing the gauges. It's pretty simple: install each bolt into its hole from inside the pan, then, using a pair of pliers, vice-grips or what-have-you, bend the smaller tab down over the bolt head




They don't need to be moosed down tight and immovable - in fact leaving the bolts a bit loose makes installation onto the bracket a little easier. They just need to be securely held in place so that they don't turn or slip out of position while the nuts are being run up.


And although it's not apparent at first glance, the foam cushions do actually have a specific orientation. Flip them over take a look; there are two small square sided grooves opposite each other on the cushion "ring", one at the top, and one on the bottom. Since the cushions are symmetrical from top to bottom, by aligning either groove with the drain hole in the bottom of the pan you can be sure you've got the cushion installed correctly.
 



Finally, after assembly of all of the components is complete, the sub=harnesses from each gauge are criss-crossed across the back of the gauge mount bracket and held in position by a metal tang attached to the bottom of the bracket




So, here they are: the gauges in their mounting bracket. Below that the speedo cable on the outside with the tach cable on the inside and, in the center, two each nuts, washers and split washers for mounting the bracket to the upper steering yoke




Studs attached to the rear of the bracket slip into two mounts formed onto the yoke. All of the various wires and cables running between the mounts should be gathered together before installing the bracket so that nothing gets pinched between the two parts. Once the bracket and gauges are installed, the washers and nuts so helpfully indicated here by our little Seal-Point Tortie "Moosie"...




...are run up and torqued to spec (see the kind of stuff I have to deal with?)




Now that the gauges are in place on the bike, it's time to install the cables. I started with the speedometer by inserting the cable up into the speedo drive, then attached the cable fitting to the drive housing, coupling the cable to the gauge





The cable then routes down across the bike to the small clip installed onto the brake joint way back during the front brake procedure




This little "L" shaped clip is fitted with the leg of the "L" pointing toward the yoke with the cable running behind it, entrapping the cable between the clip and the yoke. (yeah, yeah; I know I installed it the other way 'round back at the brake procedure... I, um.., I just did it that way to... to keep it in the proper location with... an eye to reversing it when the time came... yeah, that's the ticket!).

Actually, that little clip is addressed nowhere in any of the Honda literature I have, the exception being the parts fiche for the bike. I became aware of it while searching the pictures in the owner's manual with an eye loupe, where I  saw it in the background with a cable running through it. Search as I could, I could find no other picture or mention of it anywhere. One more reason for the thread, I guess...




From the clip the cable routes down through the grommet installed onto the front fender (below left), then through this little wire guide mounted onto the fender stay (right), and finally it connects to the speedo drive at the wheel hub, where it's held in position with a screw (bottom)




Something to notice about the above pic is that I loosened up the axle clamp nuts and rotated the speedo gear so that it's perpendicular to the axis of the fork leg (in red). I then re-torqued the nuts, remembering to tighten the front nut first. This step completes installation of the speedo cable.


On to the tach cable, and it's fitted to the gauge just like the speedo cable was




After connecting to the gauge, the cable snakes under the bottom steering yoke and routes through the wire guide installed with the horn (inset below right), then on to the tach drive mounted to the head (below left)

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And I like that base pic so much I'm posting an unadulterated copy of it here...

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Sorry... just couldn't help myself...


Now that the gauges are sorted, the next items to consider are the front turn signals. Here they are with their mounting nuts and washers exposed




Installation is pretty simple; the wires and stems are threaded through the openings provided in the fork "ears", then the washers and nuts are run up to hold them in place (remember that it's orange on the left, light blue on the right)



Note that there are small dimples punched into each "ear" just behind the signal mount (above inset). Just align the "point" on the stem base "nut" with the dimple to orient the signals.


So, we'll need a ground for these signals, and that gives us a clean segue into fitting the headlight (smooth, right?). Here's the headlight support housing (AKA "shell" or "bucket"); it's one of the few parts off of the original bike that I'll be using on the build




I gave it a couple of shiny new coats of Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2X Gloss Black and it looks good as new. I'll be installing it using the hardware laid out below...




At top are the mounting nuts; these live inside the shell and are fitted with ground leads for the signals. Below them are chrome washers for the big mounting bolts, and two spacers. At bottom, on either side of the bolts, are two neoprene washers that aren't strictly standard, at least for this model. I picked them up at my local "ACE" in the "Large Neoprene Washer" section near the fender washers (below left)...




Using a dab of stick glue I stuck them to the inside of each of the headlight mounting "ears" (above right) in an effort to help keep the headlight shell in place and pointed properly down the road. They're not required; I just like to add this stuff because hey, that's just the kind of guy I am! Once the  headlight shell is in place they'll be invisible and, who knows? IIRC there's at least one model that uses something similar to this, so they may actually work!


As a preliminary step, I installed the spacers into holes provided in the shell (one on each side)




Installation is easy as pie: I gathered up all of the sundry wires and harnesses (don't forget the turn signal buzzer and front brake switch sub-harnesses!) hanging out at the front of the bike and threaded them through the opening in the rear of the shell while simultaneously raising it into position between the fork mount "ears" (opening oriented down). Next, I inserted the mounting bolts through the washers, the "ear" mounts and the spacers fitted into the shell, then secured everything using the special mounting nuts (below left inset)




These fit into a slot molded into the inner case wall so they can only be properly oriented one of two ways, either of which will suffice. Something to note is that each mounting "ear" has a small punch mark at its nose that indicates the centerline of the headlight shell (above right inset). There isn't a corresponding punch mark on the shell (at least the one I have), so it's simply a matter of aligning the punch mark with the centerline of the mounting "land" formed into the shell in order to get the headlight into the correct position




With the headlight bucket in place I got a stool, needle-nosed pliers, 000 steel wool and a pinch of Sour Diesel and, facing the bike straddling the front wheel, proceeded to make the final connections. I used the steel wool to go over all of the bullet connectors until they shined; then, using the needle nosed pliers, inserted each connector into its corresponding female counterpart until it clicked. There's a dimple in each of the female connectors that "clicks" into a gap at the end of the bullet "head"; you can have the connector partially inserted and not know it, so feel and listen for the "click" to make sure the connections are right.


So, that completes the electrical system installation. I tested everything using a tank battery I have and everything worked as it should; I took some shots but those will have to wait for another day as this has gone on long enough. In the next post I'll be starting the beast up and installing the tank, seat, side covers etc, etc.

Getting closer every day!


'til next time
« Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 03:03:38 PM by SohRon »
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Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #268 on: November 11, 2014, 09:50:22 PM »
SHE LIVES!!!


She's a bit "rattly" and doesn't want to idle very smoothly, but I'm hoping that syncing the carbs will help with that; on the day I took this video the temp dropped 30 degrees in two hours and it was starting to snow outside as I was doing the shoot, so I didn't get a chance to do anything more than start her up... this is how she sounds on her "virgin" run. I plan to get some quality tweaking time in this weekend, whatever the weather.

So, the bike is actually done, as you might be able to tell from the video. I was hoping to get the tank and seat on her and get some pics, but I ran out of time (see above). That's something else I'll have to get to soon. I'll continue posting procedures (should be more soon) but I just had to share the joy. It's been a long, strange trip, but I'm glad it's finally finished.  ;D

More to come...
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Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #269 on: November 11, 2014, 11:18:44 PM »
That fully deserves a ... WooHoo!!   ;D
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #270 on: November 11, 2014, 11:49:31 PM »
that's a great moment sohron, congratulations!

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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #271 on: November 12, 2014, 05:11:23 AM »
Can't be many bikes that have undergone this level of restoration that ever get ridden. Down right beautiful! Motor sonds nice and tight too.

Only down side to this bike being "wrapped up" is the loss of top notch information and details to read about  :(

What's the next project you will regale us with, SohRon?


Congrats by the way, if you didn't interpet that from my whining above  ;)
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #272 on: November 12, 2014, 05:23:11 AM »
Thanks for the replies, guys. Yeah, I'm glad she's finally done; all told I've been fooling with this project for over six years, so it's great to see it finally come to fruition... I'm mainly glad she runs with no loud noises or leaks of anything anywhere (whew!).  I'll still be finishing up the thread, just had to let everyone in on the milestone  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #273 on: November 12, 2014, 06:05:34 AM »
That fully deserves a ... WooHoo!!   ;D

Woo Hoo - nothin like the first start up, congrats Ron.  Saw the video, plz tell us you actually did the start up previous to filming it? We know you are good, but it's rare to have a bike start immediately after setting for so long. Great job. 
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Re: Assembling my '74 CB550 - SHE LIVES!!!
« Reply #274 on: November 12, 2014, 08:12:17 AM »
Why, Stev-o, are you doubting me?  ::)

This is actually the third time I started it up... it did take a bit of encouragement to get it to go the first time. but it's started first time ever since.

I'll get some pics this weekend, so stay tuned!
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