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Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« on: April 10, 2006, 10:28:43 AM »
Hello all.   I went to install my new avons this morning and found a  very rusty nastiness on the inside of my rims.   These pictures are after 1/2 an hour of cleaning/ sanding the rear.  How clean does it have to get to insure a good bead and no tube punctures?

Thanks in advance,

Jorge.

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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2006, 11:51:27 AM »
I seem to be an expert in this field lately , with all the rims I have cleaned  ::)

I used a wire wheel and went to town on the inside of my wheel.
Just get as much surface rust as you can off the wheel, take your time, and for
god's sake wear eye protection  ;D

After I was happy with my results, I did a quick spray of Rust-oleum black spraypaint to try and keep
the rust away/from comming back...

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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2006, 12:16:20 PM »
After 20 years in storage, my wheels were pretty much in the same shape. Used precisely the same technique as ProTeal about a year and half ago before mounting some new Dunlops. Some day hope to get new rims/spokes, etc. but at the time it was a challenge to see if I could get it running. I will be curious to see how it held up either with the next tire change or new wheels. I guess that means the jury is still out on this approach.   ::)
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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2006, 01:15:09 PM »
I had a tube puncture from a rust spire. Sharp little bugger, that.  Very odd trying to ride with the rear tire going 2 inches alternately left or right.
Anyway, did the wire brush/sanding, and even steel file thing to reduce the brown and bring out the shiny steel.  Then I used Zinc Chromate primer to paint the inside of the rim.   The paint carrier does a fair job of sealing the surface.  And, the zinc is sacrificial, in that it will give up to the corrosive assault before the steel gets involved.  Does a fair job of deterring any rust sites you may have missed, too.  Also, any nicks in the surface paint membrane rust at a slower rate due to the surrounding zinc.

I've changed the tire twice on this rim, now.  No new rust has been found on the rim in the 15 years since this treatment.

Beware that some paint companies use zinc chromate as a color designator without actually putting zinc in the formula.  The chromate is there to bond well with aluminum.  However, it bonds nicely to steel, as well.   Aircraft supply shops have the real deal, if you have difficulty getting it in your area.  Some locales restrict offerings to the public as breathing in the zinc is not wise.  Either spray or brush application works well.  I had a spray can, handy at the time.

Despite it's clever marketing name, Rustoleum, while a good coating membrane, doesn't do a thing to convert rust.  And, rusty surfaces so painted, continue to rust from under the coating anyway.  Zinc phosphate would be the preferred treatment to the steel before covering it with a paint membrane like Rustoleum.
I find the single zinc chromate application (either green or yellow) a speedy way to deal with such hidden areas.  Prepare, paint and use next day.

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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2006, 01:44:23 PM »
your rims are a bit rusty but not very,ive seen much worse.clean em and go.
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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2006, 05:02:48 PM »
I don't know where you are.   But, any general aviation maintainence shop shop either have it or can get it.  Zinc Chromate helps keep old airplanes flying, too.

You can mail order from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty.
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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2006, 06:41:08 AM »
please dont infer i suggested they not be cleaned,just that clean em good and carry on.
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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2006, 06:57:25 AM »
groovy
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Re: Rusty rim on the inside. How clean does it have to get?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2006, 07:23:56 AM »
...knotted wire wheel on a 4.5" grinder would make quick of that...one or to passes and u'r done... 8)
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