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backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« on: May 01, 2005, 09:34:08 PM »
So I spent about 7 hours today removing the old motor, and the upper rear bolt must have taken me an hour to remove that's how rusted it was, and putting a rebuilt one in ('78 550).  I put everything back on, adjusted valves, checked compression and was hoping for a nice hum when I got shaken by a backfire with a puff of black smoke.  Cranked it several more times, another backfire. 
This is my first time doing this, and I thought I followed Clymer where it said to rotate the crankshaft until T 1-4 mark is aligned with the index mark. 
Since there are two markings, one on the side of "1" and teh side of the "4", which one should I go by ? 
I also lined up the notch in the camshaft with the surface of the cylinder but I wasn't sure if the notch was supposed face the front or the back.  The notch sould be on the right side of the cyinder, above cylinder #4, is that right ?
I have a feeling I screwed up something here, didn't I ? 

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Re: backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2005, 11:12:43 PM »
mate check your spark plug wires are on the right cylinders first... i had the same problem and it turned out the i had the coils wired ass about face....also you havent got the timing cam 180 degrees out?
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Re: backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 07:50:03 AM »
i'll double check the wires, you mean the cam is off 180 degrees ?

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Re: backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2005, 07:58:44 AM »
na the points advance cam.. did you have it apart? if its 180derees out then its going to be opening closeing the wrong points. just a thought... can anyone else help?...peace
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Re: backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2005, 08:10:10 AM »
no didn't have it apart, just took it off and put it back on, I switched to electronic ignition few years ago so I don't think that would be an issue...   and I did label the spark plug wires prior to disassembly, unless I really got confused.  In case I did get them all mixed up, can someone confirm which coils connect to which plugs ? I know this is basics...   Thanks for any guidance.

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Re: backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2005, 05:17:04 PM »
coil1.. sitting on bike is to the left, coil two is on the right...peace... you have me stumped, the only other thing is may be the cam timeing is out slightly.... was it running b4 you pulled it apart?,the carbs were ok?... man you got me ... hard without seeing it in the flesh if you know what i meen?...peace
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backfire no more/ started after top end rebuild
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2005, 07:56:18 PM »
thanks for all the good suggestions, i re-checked the cam, it was fine, it was the mixed up wires with some minor valve clearance adjustements that did it...  it started and sounded great...
now i got a gear shift oil leak to take care of...

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Re: backfire/won't start after top end rebuild
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2005, 07:14:42 AM »
bloody glad its sorted, i know how frustrating it is trying to chase a problem... i looked every where and mine turned out to be an open circuit spark plug cap!!!!... last place i looked.... needless to say, its about 5 houses down in there back yrd :o ;D... regardsing to oil leak....its never over...peace
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