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Offline extek66

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chain oiler
« on: April 18, 2011, 04:50:29 PM »
I was changing the sprockets on my early 72 750 cleaning out all the crud.I saw what looked like a lock nut with adjuster screw.I found out it is a chain oiler which I didn't know it had.My question can it be eliminated without a lot of work or just adjusted closed?
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Offline DarcyCB400F

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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 04:54:40 PM »
Why don't you make use of it? This is a very cool feature!
Can you find the resevoir for it? Is it operational?
How about some pics???
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 04:57:34 PM »
On my K0 it is not adjustable. On your's it may be. In either case, you are better off without it. Chain lubes today are quite good. The 'auto' oiler may have been better than no oil at all, but not by much and messy!
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 05:04:10 PM »
There is at least one good old thread about how to plug this.  You will have to do a search...I think it's in tips and tricks.
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 05:19:11 PM »
Why don't you make use of it? This is a very cool feature!
Can you find the resevoir for it? Is it operational?
How about some pics???

The reservoir for it is the same as for the engine.  It's a "controlled" leak of engine oil onto the front sprocket which gets slung out onto the chain, and all around inside the sprocket cover, and all over your rear rim, etc.  From what I can tell, most of them tend to get clogged up and just never get unclogged, which is actually a blessing, IMO. 

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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 05:24:40 PM »
Yes, and remember it nice, contaminated oil from the engine.  ;)
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 05:56:32 PM »
Why don't you make use of it? This is a very cool feature!
Can you find the resevoir for it? Is it operational?
How about some pics???

The reservoir for it is the same as for the engine.  It's a "controlled" leak of engine oil onto the front sprocket which gets slung out onto the chain, and all around inside the sprocket cover, and all over your rear rim, etc.  From what I can tell, most of them tend to get clogged up and just never get unclogged, which is actually a blessing, IMO.

Enough said! I assumed (we all know what that means) that the oiler was an aftermarket one. My friends CB750 has such an item and it works very nicely!
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 06:52:31 PM »
thanks I found it in tips and tricks going to try the cutoff Oring to plug the hole in the countershaft.
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 07:35:39 PM »
that's what I did, it worked... ;)
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 08:15:51 PM »
my oiler works great... I'm a little naive, but is this the kind of thing that tends to fail all at once and just gush, or should I only disable it once it's failed?
I mean, it's pretty dry in there on the whole, but i can see it keeps the chain ever so slightly lubed.

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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 08:34:25 PM »
...phil71, if your running an O or x-ring chain, dirty motor oil from the chain oiler really is not much good.  I would use it if your running an old school, non-o ring chain.  Many have had problems with it's tendency to over-oil at sustained highway speeds, causing a big rear-end mess.
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 01:12:19 AM »
the chain is the 2nd one for the bike. the paperwork says it was replaced as part of a recall at about 7k miles and now has just over 10k  (I guess the stock K1 chains snapped a lot under hard acceleration?)
The chain is in spec and tight at the 1st notch.
 I've done some hard/fast riding, and some highway riding and nothing gets very wet or very dry. It's definitely not o-ring, and I've not heard about 'X-ring' outside of star wars. I'm definitely used to using moly lube, but this, so far, seems to be super manageable and doing its job. I guess my main concern is, in everyone's experience, is this the kind of thing that goes from fine to shot in an instant, or does it gradually start to make the whole output shaft housing soaked?


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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 02:56:22 AM »
Sounds like your in good shape, then.  I always say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."  There is kind of a nylon seal in there, that helps regulate the flow of the chain oiler.  It seems this nylon sleeve gets chewed up and there is little control over how much oil is on the chain.  Maybe a chain failure can damage the oiler, and it seems your bike got fixed before it happened.  Oh and a an x-ring is just a fancier design of an o-ring chain.
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Re: chain oiler
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 08:48:57 AM »
The oiler also lubes the output shaft to help prevent excessive wear to the splines.
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