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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 02:45:22 AM »
Good thread... ;D

I never believe any PO unless Ive known the bastard for years.
An even THEN I still nit pick the bike to death, to the point the PO looks like he's about to cry.... "Your not pulling $h!t on me bud" in my head as I lay down on the ground to look up under the bike an whip of years of neglect.....

I have friends that bring ME to check there soon to be "project bikes".....

Ive EVEN made a dude buy me a tank of gas for driving my ass to east BFE just to look at the turd.... JB weld on the juggs!!! And wood screws on the controls, seized brakes.... "It ran when I put it back here"

YEAH, 10 F-ing years ago, you frigging retard!!!!!
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 02:50:46 AM »
Quote from: jorwesflow on April 21, 2011, 08:51:05 AM
well done!

how about when they say "spare parts included!"
it's more like; "I'm trying to reduce the spider-nests/mouse-turds per sq. foot in my shed, so take this crap off my hands. literally."

I didn't know I was paying YOU to be your 1-800-got-junk.
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OTFL.....

I think Ive even said that one time...... THAT dude was pissed!! I think I mentioned something about the fact "I get paid by the pound to haul crap away!"
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2011, 04:07:22 AM »
I don't buy anything sight unseen, especially 40 year old motorcycles. I found my 750K6 about a hour drive from my house. I knew as soon as I saw it the bike had been taken care of. And after about 30 min of checking it out and hearing it run I knew if I was going to get one of these classics this was the one for me. I've had it about to 2 years and I love it no problems. Junk is junk doesn't matter what PO says about it. If it looks like crap it's a pretty good chance it is.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2011, 04:11:55 AM »
It might be cool if some of the more experienced owners here put together a list of things to look for and tools to bring when looking at purchasing used SOHC4s.  I got lucky on my first purchase but the bike was running at least. 
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2011, 04:31:16 AM »
Quote from: cobrajunkie on April 22, 2011, 04:11:55 AM
It might be cool if some of the more experienced owners here put together a list of things to look for and tools to bring when looking at purchasing used SOHC4s.  I got lucky on my first purchase but the bike was running at least.

That's a superb idea... You start the thread, an give us the link...
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2011, 07:06:12 AM »


There's already a thread here somewhere for that purpose...maybe in the faq's?
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2011, 11:59:21 AM »
The last bike I looked at when we got there it ran and the guy offered to let us ride it around the neighborhood, which was awesome of him considering it was close to 10pm when we got there.  Until I I got a flashlight and started inspecting the front assembly and saw it had no caliper or brake arm... WTF are these people thinking when they say stuff like that?
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2011, 12:54:52 PM »
WHAT ARE THEY THINKING ?  They are thinking that hopefully you will take the bike around the area and when you go to brake, there won't be any and you will crash it and guess what...either you will have to buy it at the price he wanted, or he will collect on the insurance...more probably the former than the latter. ;) >:( :( :o
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2011, 01:37:48 PM »
What's insurance? ;-) 
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2011, 02:26:40 AM »
PO,

I just wanted to write and thank you for my recent bike purchase.  What you thought was a boat anchor due to your mechanical incompetence, and/or lack of attention to detail, turned out to make me a sack of money.  I can tell you that placing the carb jets in their correct holes really made a difference.  Thanks again.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2011, 05:53:51 AM »
Quote from: Schmthaus on April 22, 2011, 07:06:12 AM


There's already a thread here somewhere for that purpose...maybe in the faq's?

Found two great resources in the general FAQ thread..

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=2894.msg37745#msg37745

http://www.clarity.net/~adam/buying-bike.html


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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2011, 07:30:57 AM »
Quote from: -CB-Jamie- on April 22, 2011, 01:07:11 AM
So I was comparing the frame number to the log book and that was when things seemed a bit funny, the original frame number had been scratched off on the log book and a new one written in, the one written in was the one that corresponded to the bike so obviously this was not the original log book for this bike. So next I looked at the engine number and it also matched the frame number and the new number wrote in the log book so I thought hmmm mightn't be too bad.

If the frame and engine number match, that's an immediate indication that something is wrong. 
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2011, 11:25:22 AM »
Quote from: KingCustomCycles.com on April 23, 2011, 02:26:40 AM
PO,

I just wanted to write and thank you for my recent bike purchase.  What you thought was a boat anchor due to your mechanical incompetence, and/or lack of attention to detail, turned out to make me a sack of money.  I can tell you that placing the carb jets in their correct holes really made a difference.  Thanks again.

i think i just peed a little... rotflmao
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2011, 01:54:05 PM »
Quote from: Gordon on April 23, 2011, 07:30:57 AM
Quote from: -CB-Jamie- on April 22, 2011, 01:07:11 AM
So I was comparing the frame number to the log book and that was when things seemed a bit funny, the original frame number had been scratched off on the log book and a new one written in, the one written in was the one that corresponded to the bike so obviously this was not the original log book for this bike. So next I looked at the engine number and it also matched the frame number and the new number wrote in the log book so I thought hmmm mightn't be too bad.

If the frame and engine number match, that's an immediate indication that something is wrong.

I thought the engine and frame number matched on some models of these sohc4 bikes... no... please correct me if I'm wrong???
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2011, 04:44:35 PM »

My PO story.
 When I handed him the $600 he turned away with a smirk on his face. I realized he thought he got me good. It was an 11/69  750 K0 with an 812 kit, Jardine header and Lester mags. Yep, he screwed me all right.  Sure, it had a plugged header and a stuck exhaust valve. I'd buy all I could find in this condition for this price.  I'm riding it over there and if he's not home leave a picture.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2011, 04:57:52 PM »
I had absolutely no expectations when i bought my F1. The guy i bought it off was really nice and a huge fellow, he used the bike to round up cattle......no #$%* !!. Only cost me $100 so i knew what i was getting myself into..... ;D ;)
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2011, 01:35:58 AM »
Quote from: -CB-Jamie- on April 22, 2011, 01:07:11 AM
Just yesterday I went to look at a basket case of a cb550k3.

Now the bike was pretty much complete minus front fender, caliper, airbox and exhaust and a few other bits and pieces and obviously in need of a good overhaul.

So I was comparing the frame number to the log book and that was when things seemed a bit funny, the original frame number had been scratched off on the log book and a new one written in, the one written in was the one that corresponded to the bike so obviously this was not the original log book for this bike. So next I looked at the engine number and it also matched the frame number and the new number wrote in the log book so I thought hmmm mightn't be too bad. Then I moved around to the front of the engine and noticed 498cc stamped on the engine block so I was like WTF. I'm not too familiar with the 550's but I knew this was not right. So he also happened to have another more complete 550f over the other side of the garage that was already sold waiting for collection so I looked at that and saw 544cc engraved on the block.
So looks like it had a 500 block on it. Didn't even bother to check if it turned over as the kick start shaft was also broken off. I really like the 550k's and am on the look out for one but just shows you I could have bought what I thought was one and been kicking myself later. It was pure fluke that I noticed the 498cc engraving.
interesting stuff,when i held a bike learners permit i had an old it400(yammy),learners back then could only have a 250cc bike,i skillfully filed off the raised cast 398cc and stamped in a 248cc,,two weeks later a passing cop car throws a u turn and stops me,,the off sider gets out and marches up to the bike and crouches down looking at the stamp and yells back to the driver"no ,its a 250!"quick learners permit check and on my way with my heart pounding out of my chest,he remarked how big the barrell looked,"it looks like a 400!"i had tacky 250 stickers on the side cover aswell,,anyway i sold that bike and i wonder what trouble its caused any one ordering parts?i had told the guy who bought it the story.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2011, 07:00:08 PM »
Dear PO of my new(ish) 78 CB550K,
     
      When rebuilding carbs its best to TIGHTEN THE MOTHER#$%*ING MAIN JETS, before reinstalling them on the bike your about to sell (me).. And maybe not use a (what looks like a TEN pnd baby sledge hammer to tighten & strip the #$%* out of the bowl screws.... Oh and the wood screw was a perfect touch to indicate how much of a ASS HAT you really were... Im glad I haggled the hell out of you.... This makes me feel just that much better to know I bent you over just as much as you tried to get me....

Hugs & Kisses
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2011, 06:45:47 AM »
Great stories guys, you had me laughing for ages.  Unfortunately, this is a world-wide phenomenon.  I bought a "previously running" 500 Four motor that had 3 pistons and 7 bent valves (the 8th one was AWOL) for a song.  I only wanted it for some specific spares and had a good guess that it was a lemon even before I went to see it.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2011, 07:42:53 AM »
Great letter.  I sent my P.O. a picture of my bike as it sits now and pic of the inside of the carbs he "just got hot tanked" before i cleaned them.  He never responded.

I got the "just had the carbs hot tanked" i.e. sprayed the outside of the carb body with carb cleaner while still installed on the bike, from my P.O.

Also got the "should crank over no problem with a simple carb clean, maybe even just fresh gas"

and who can forget the "I put an electronic ignition in it, worth well over $300"  ... Dyna S $140 ahemmm

whats funniest to me is this P.O. owns 7 or so bikes.  Tells me it needs a cam chain, stator, and a few other odds and ends.  Stator was mint, he was leaving the bike in park and killing the battery.  Adjusted the cam chain and it cleared up all the noise in the chain (for now).  Just about everything else has needed replacement :-D Good thing this guy "raced these bikes for years" and knew them "inside and out"

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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2011, 07:58:28 AM »
Quote from: -CB-Jamie- on April 23, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: Gordon on April 23, 2011, 07:30:57 AM
Quote from: -CB-Jamie- on April 22, 2011, 01:07:11 AM
So I was comparing the frame number to the log book and that was when things seemed a bit funny, the original frame number had been scratched off on the log book and a new one written in, the one written in was the one that corresponded to the bike so obviously this was not the original log book for this bike. So next I looked at the engine number and it also matched the frame number and the new number wrote in the log book so I thought hmmm mightn't be too bad.

If the frame and engine number match, that's an immediate indication that something is wrong.

I thought the engine and frame number matched on some models of these sohc4 bikes... no... please correct me if I'm wrong???

Even in the very beginning (sandcasts).... it was EXTREAMLY UNUSUAL to find frame & engine #'s that matched... maybe 1 or 2 ever.... a lot were 1, 2, 3 , 4 or more #'s off....as time went on ....the spread grew.  I have heard that some have bought bikes with certain #'s to match them up... but in sandcasts, that would decrease the value.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2011, 10:01:24 AM »
Not to be an Ass, but you've run the vin #'s crap into the ground..
And it really has no baring on the soul of this thread... (isnt that all in the Tech section anyway)
Lets keep the stories of stupidity & angsed going... I need the laugh... ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2011, 12:10:24 PM »
Quote from: Artf0rm on April 22, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
The last bike I looked at when we got there it ran and the guy offered to let us ride it around the neighborhood, which was awesome of him considering it was close to 10pm when we got there.  Until I I got a flashlight and started inspecting the front assembly and saw it had no caliper or brake arm... WTF are these people thinking when they say stuff like that?

Had a similar experience, except I didn't look, but found out it had no brakes at the first stop sign.
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2011, 01:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Ernest T on July 19, 2011, 12:10:24 PM

Had a similar experience, except I didn't look, but found out it had no brakes at the first stop sign.

Even better bargaining chip.  Your bike is inside your neighbors bedroom.  Knock 200 off the price and I will pull it out for you...
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Re: Open letter to the Previous Owner
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2011, 01:43:43 PM »
Dear Rich #$%*,

I know that you probably forgot that you owned a 1977 Honda motorcycle, but you do / did. I know that you have misplaced the title for said motorcycle over the years due to being to rich to give a #$%* about some poor old motorcycle stuffed in the back of your document filing warehouse for 20 years. I am aware you didn't have the "time" to get involved with acquiring a duplicate title. Besides the nice amounts of rat feces and spider webs, the frozen carburetors, and the beautiful patina and rust accents, I have almost completely restored your motorcycle to like new condition. I have acquired the proper documentation to prove that your associates sold me the motorcycle under your command, and I have a lawyer drawing up the necessary paperwork to subpoena you. Once you have been served, you will be required to show up in Cort and/or apply for a duplicate title that you will then be forced to sign over to me. If you fail to do either of these things eventually I will be issued a title under vehicle abandonment laws and you will most likely be fined. How's that feel in your rich ass? You think you can sell something without a title and you're permanently rid of it and or any problems with it. That's not quite how it works and for about 350$ I will make you do a little work that you otherwise refuse to do.

Thanks for making me aware of the law Jerk off.
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