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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #450 on: May 07, 2024, 07:05:09 AM »
Welded the donner seat bracket back on.  The frame will get stripped and powder coated.

Color?

Gloss black, I am boring  :)
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #451 on: May 07, 2024, 07:05:37 AM »
After several tries, I got the angle right.  Now the length.  I might make it 1" longer than the stock swingarm.
The few I’ve made were about 5* for the legs to intersect the pivot tube. Looks like you have “just enough” room for the tire when it’s cold and unloaded. A 1” extension to move the axle back would be very helpful for clearance issues.

Thanks, Cal.  Still working on it.  :)
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #452 on: May 07, 2024, 07:11:01 AM »
Welded the donner seat bracket back on.  The frame will get stripped and powder coated.

Color?

Gloss black, I am boring  :)

Stock was semi-gloss so you are stepping it up a bit!
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #453 on: May 07, 2024, 07:12:49 AM »
Welded the donner seat bracket back on.  The frame will get stripped and powder coated.

Color?

Gloss black, I am boring  :)

Stock was semi-gloss so you are stepping it up a bit!

Good to know, guess I will do semi-gloss.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #454 on: May 07, 2024, 07:54:02 AM »
Many paints are called semi gloss and they vary a lot, I think Dupli Color is close.
I have used POR15 chassis black to good effect but lately I have had some bad batches or something and it did not go on well. I think I got an old can of it.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #455 on: May 07, 2024, 04:47:37 PM »
In my experience a gloss black single stage is gonna be just a bit too glossy when new.  After a couple vigorous cleanings, a perfect match.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #456 on: May 07, 2024, 06:24:08 PM »
Many paints are called semi gloss and they vary a lot, I think Dupli Color is close.
I have used POR15 chassis black to good effect but lately I have had some bad batches or something and it did not go on well. I think I got an old can of it.

I've been wondering for a while when they're going to put a date code on these cans of paint which can be read by the consumers: Us  >:(
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #457 on: May 07, 2024, 09:42:52 PM »
Many paints are called semi gloss and they vary a lot, I think Dupli Color is close.
I have used POR15 chassis black to good effect but lately I have had some bad batches or something and it did not go on well. I think I got an old can of it.

I used POR15 on my CJ7.  Good stuff.  But I need to outsource the frame to speed things up and the company will strip it and powder coat it.

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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #458 on: May 08, 2024, 08:13:17 PM »
Many paints are called semi gloss and they vary a lot, I think Dupli Color is close.
I have used POR15 chassis black to good effect but lately I have had some bad batches or something and it did not go on well. I think I got an old can of it.

I've had that problem with the POR paint, too. It doesn't seem as reliable and excellent as their POR15, which I've used to save several tanks. That stuff rocks.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #459 on: May 09, 2024, 07:59:20 AM »
Yes, not sure I'd do another frame with it unless I tested whichever can I opened. It doesn't seem to want to level out very well.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #460 on: May 11, 2024, 12:37:19 PM »
I've been wondering for a while when they're going to put a date code on these cans of paint which can be read by the consumers: Us  >:(

I wondered that, too, until I was the engineer building a machine that included putting date-codes and barcodes onto finished products. It turns out, the date code is coded and standardized so machines can read it: only those manufacturers who decide on purpose to make it visible to the public in text bother to add more printer capability to their machines (expensive at best, and only available since about 2008!). In the beginning (1990-ish) the scanners could only read bars and spaces, which brought us the common 'scan code' you see on all products now. A scanner that can also read text characters is about 10x more expensive than a barcode reader, so the scenario continues...  :-\
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #461 on: May 11, 2024, 02:07:14 PM »
I've been wondering for a while when they're going to put a date code on these cans of paint which can be read by the consumers: Us  >:(

I wondered that, too, until I was the engineer building a machine that included putting date-codes and barcodes onto finished products. It turns out, the date code is coded and standardized so machines can read it: only those manufacturers who decide on purpose to make it visible to the public in text bother to add more printer capability to their machines (expensive at best, and only available since about 2008!). In the beginning (1990-ish) the scanners could only read bars and spaces, which brought us the common 'scan code' you see on all products now. A scanner that can also read text characters is about 10x more expensive than a barcode reader, so the scenario continues...  :-\

This makes it almost impossible to trust the vendors of these aerosol spray paint cans.
I don't like doing prep twice.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #462 on: May 12, 2024, 02:00:16 AM »
I've been wondering for a while when they're going to put a date code on these cans of paint which can be read by the consumers: Us  >:(

I wondered that, too, until I was the engineer building a machine that included putting date-codes and barcodes onto finished products. It turns out, the date code is coded and standardized so machines can read it: only those manufacturers who decide on purpose to make it visible to the public in text bother to add more printer capability to their machines (expensive at best, and only available since about 2008!). In the beginning (1990-ish) the scanners could only read bars and spaces, which brought us the common 'scan code' you see on all products now. A scanner that can also read text characters is about 10x more expensive than a barcode reader, so the scenario continues...  :-\

one past job the company worked on parts for general motors. we put a serial number on the parts which included the letter designating the machine it was run on, Julian date, and a part number for that day which incremented up. the pin stamp device had “dot” and “smooth”…the cameras in 2008 could not OCR read “smooth” only “dot” could be read. a few years into the job they made us add a 3D bar code. only recently learned the difference between 2D and 3D. we called them 2D but being stamped they were actually 3D barcodes

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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #463 on: May 12, 2024, 08:01:43 AM »
I've been wondering for a while when they're going to put a date code on these cans of paint which can be read by the consumers: Us  >:(

I wondered that, too, until I was the engineer building a machine that included putting date-codes and barcodes onto finished products. It turns out, the date code is coded and standardized so machines can read it: only those manufacturers who decide on purpose to make it visible to the public in text bother to add more printer capability to their machines (expensive at best, and only available since about 2008!). In the beginning (1990-ish) the scanners could only read bars and spaces, which brought us the common 'scan code' you see on all products now. A scanner that can also read text characters is about 10x more expensive than a barcode reader, so the scenario continues...  :-\

one past job the company worked on parts for general motors. we put a serial number on the parts which included the letter designating the machine it was run on, Julian date, and a part number for that day which incremented up. the pin stamp device had “dot” and “smooth”…the cameras in 2008 could not OCR read “smooth” only “dot” could be read. a few years into the job they made us add a 3D bar code. only recently learned the difference between 2D and 3D. we called them 2D but being stamped they were actually 3D barcodes

Do you think NAPA would have a bar code reader to check the date/code ?
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #464 on: May 12, 2024, 01:47:09 PM »
A normal QR code you can read with a smart phone ?? tons of free apps

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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #465 on: June 05, 2024, 07:51:17 AM »
Mocking up the powder coated frame
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #466 on: June 05, 2024, 07:52:06 AM »
The wheel came from IKEA.  :)
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #467 on: June 05, 2024, 08:06:33 AM »
The wheel came from IKEA. 

What??!!!!!    And I assume you have another swingarm?
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #468 on: June 05, 2024, 08:08:51 AM »
The wheel came from IKEA. 

What??!!!!!    And I assume you have another swingarm?

Yup, there should be a different swingarm if everything works out.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #469 on: June 07, 2024, 07:34:53 AM »
After several confused attempts I decided to practice with an old rim.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #470 on: June 07, 2024, 11:38:38 AM »
Looks like you got the hang of it...
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #471 on: June 07, 2024, 04:02:20 PM »
Seems like it.   :)

Now gotta build a truing stand and get a torque wrench.
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #472 on: June 07, 2024, 04:30:49 PM »
Looks good Prokop.
Which spokes are those,Sapim brand,or stock Honda?
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #473 on: June 07, 2024, 05:42:51 PM »
Looks good Prokop.
Which spokes are those,Sapim brand,or stock Honda?

Thank you.

SS spokes from Buchanan. 
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Re: Dorothy III - CB750
« Reply #474 on: June 07, 2024, 08:46:26 PM »
How much was the Buchanan set now?
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