Tweakin, I have mentioned that before.. hang around with both sides, and you see it from both groups..
I dont know why more folks cant just accept peoples choices nd ride together..
I guess there is/could be better bikes to learn on, but he is taking a riders course, starting out with NEW equipment, and has a family member to help him out... THAT is about 3 times better than when a lot of us learned...
Untill the MC community is welcoming to all new riders..we are still hurting ourselves..