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speedbleeder
« on: April 18, 2006, 08:15:29 PM »
I just finished my dual disk setup on my K2 and will post photos soon. One thing I added was a couple speedbleeders as I  wanted to try my old master cylinder. I figured if I could bleed all air it could work. I have been bleeding brakes for 35 years and I never thought it could be so easy. These things work much better than I ever thought they could. With dual disks my lever is almost the same as one. I bought the stainless steel 10mmx1.25. Just for the record I do not work for speedbleeder.
I believe I could flush the system in less than 15 minutes.
http://www.speedbleeder.com/

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2006, 08:19:51 PM »
Modle I bought SB10125-SS

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2006, 09:01:42 PM »
Wow those look awesome. I was reading the size charts and the part number it gave in general for honda was different from the one you are using. How did you know which one to use? Where would I find the proper size information for an 1980 cb650?

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 04:34:11 AM »
another new site added to my bookmarks.  I might be investing in this company ;)

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 06:18:13 AM »
10x1.25 is our standard banjo bolt size.  The bleaders are smaller than that.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2006, 06:25:20 AM »
So the "little bleeders" (sorry - old English phrase...) would be 8mm x 1.25mm or their part 8125 ?

I must try these. I think Goodrich distribute these in the UK.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2006, 06:46:07 AM »
How much are these things ?
Can't find a price on their site.....
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 06:49:48 AM »
$7 each
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2006, 06:50:20 AM »
That means they'll be about £20+ VAT each in the UK...
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2006, 08:11:46 AM »
I saw that their is a check/one-way valve in each bleeder.
So, when these are mounted on the caliper, to you just push-down the "nipple" to
bleed the fluid from the caliper, instead of having to crack them loose ?

Is this the benefit to them ?
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2006, 08:53:20 AM »
Nope, you still crack them loose. The best method to use them is to press on length of (clear) rubber hose that will direct your drained brake fluid into a catch can. Crack open the speedbleeder, and squeeze the brake lever. The check-valve will allow the fluid to run out of the bleed nipple, and then shut once you release pressure from the brake lever.

Watch the clear tubing for air bubbles, and squeeze away until the air bubbles disappear. Don't forget to keep refilling the master cylinder.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2006, 09:44:08 AM »
10x1.25 is our standard banjo bolt size.  The bleaders are smaller than that.

These look pretty cool. It would make swapping out fluid for the new year so easy. $7 for normal $30 for stainless steel.

SteveD, is there a way around V.A.T. via "gift" packages being sent in?

About sizes:
I looked in the parts fiche to try and confirm the sizes and can't find it for a CB550. Are the bleeders on our sohc4s all the same size? If so, is it 8 x 1.25, 10 x 1.25 or something else.

heres's their web address for sizes
https://www.speedbleeder.com/size.htm

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2006, 11:04:54 AM »
This is a great idea.

jph550, I too am finding it hard to figure out which part would fit my calipers.

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2006, 11:20:37 AM »
You're right, I checked the parts fiche I use and it just says "Valve, Bleeder" - no size given.  If no one knows, I'll check the size on my spare caliper when I get home.  However, this is a heck of a deal as the parts fiche indicated $7.50 for the standard bleeder and another $2.98 for the bleeder cap.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2006, 11:53:56 AM »
i emailed them about the correct part# for the cb550. i'll post it if they write back.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2006, 05:19:54 PM »
got an email back from the company, saying only "SB8125L". if anyone else finds this part # to indeed be compatible for the cb550, let me know.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2006, 05:24:38 PM »
My spare bleeder threads quite nicely onto an M7-1.0 metric nut, and the whole thing measures 1.25 inches long.  So my guess is model SB7100 (M7x1.0 & 1.38" long).  Emphasis here on the word guess.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2006, 05:26:15 PM »
Model SB8125L is an M8 thread.  My bleeder falls through an M8 nut.  I'm doubting this one...
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2006, 06:15:15 PM »
Guys, You have to trust me here. The bleeder is the same exact size and thread as the banjo bolt. This is on a 750 K2. Thus when you have dual disks you can switch the supply and bleeder side. The early 750's have a 10mm X 1.25 thread. The 1.25 means 1.25 threads per millimeter. The $7 price is the standard finish. the stainless steel are $15. I do not know the size of a CB550.
CB750 K2 = part # SB10125-SS that is right off the package. The SS means the Stainless steel.

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2006, 06:35:48 PM »
Can't help you with the sizing but I've put these bleeders on both my bikes and I can flush and bleed the brakes and clutch systems in about 10 minutes! Marvellous. They also sell the clear plastic tubing, handy resuable bag for catching the used fluid, and a bottle of the thread sealant. If you undo and re-tighten the screw a couple of times they don't seal as well anymore and you have to add more sealant to threads. Its no big deal, but if you order them, you might want to get the sealant while you're at it.

You shouldn't need to undo and retighten them alot (thats the whole point of the thing!) but sooner or later you'll end up needing to reseal the threads. Trust me on this! Both Hondas I have use the 8125 model of speedbleeder, but they're not 60's and 70's vintage.

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2006, 06:50:04 PM »
CB550:

-Top is banjo bolt, and does appear to be a 10mmx1.25 as it will start into an M10x1.0 nut, but only the first thread (don't have an M10x1.25 handy)
-Middle is an M8x1.0 nut, which the bleeder does not thread into (nut too big).
-Bottom is the bleeder threaded into an M7x1.0 nut.

On the 550, the bleeder is definitely smaller diameter than the banjo.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2006, 11:54:21 PM »
chris,
how would you feel about sending the information in that last post to the company? their website has a contact address, from which i was reponded to within 24 hours. seems like they could have a decent stake in making sure they provide the correct part # to a website of enthusiasts.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2006, 01:08:26 AM »
I've just measured the one on my CB400f, and it is 8mm x 1.25mm pitch.

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2006, 06:49:47 AM »
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how would you feel about sending the information in that last post to the company?

No problem.  Maybe we should package up all the different models and their bleeder sizes and see if they'll give the SOHC guys a discount or advertise here or something?  If these things work as good as everyone here says, they'll make a killing on this site alone.

And to think, I finally got my new brake lines in and was all excited about the new install.  Now I'll have to wait some more because I think I'll try one of these.  Has anyone had one for any lenght of time?  Any thoughts regarding standard vs. SS?  Corrosion?  Gum up? Whatever?

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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2006, 01:31:23 PM »
Just attempted to replace the bleeders on my 75 750F (75/76 are the same). I talked with the nice folks at Speed Bleeder Products and he had me measure the nuts on each for fitment. This ONLY PARTIALLY WORKS !! 8mm on each. He therefore sent me SB8125LSS (SS = Stainless Steel). The rear works fine however the "L" is slightly longer than the original. The SB8125 (no "L") is the best match. When I got to the front I discovered the 8125 is INCORRECT. The threads on the original seem finer and have a smaller diameter. As soon as I hear back I'll post my front results. I'm assuming (look what that got me the first time) that my front caliper is the same as all the K's.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2006, 08:14:06 PM »
The front disc brake bleeder valve on your '75 750F and my '75 550K share the same part number:

VALVE, BLEEDER
45224-579-013

As previously posted:

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My spare bleeder threads quite nicely onto an M7-1.0 metric nut, and the whole thing measures 1.25 inches long.  So my guess is model SB7100 (M7x1.0 & 1.38" long).

I haven't had a chance to contact them regarding this, but I'm pretty sure about it as I checked by threading into a known nut size.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2006, 10:47:30 PM »
It was all sounding pretty good until the problems with fitment cropped up. I think I'm glad I bought a vacuum kit instead. It was more expensive, but it works on every hydraulic brake I've got. ;D
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2011, 06:43:40 AM »
Bringing an old thread back to life. Does anyone know what size speed bleeder I would need for my 73 CB750?
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2011, 06:50:29 AM »
Bringing an old thread back to life. Does anyone know what size speed bleeder I would need for my 73 CB750?
Should be a 10x1.25, but best to measure your own as the application charts I've run across don't go back that far.  PS: that's what i just bought for my K2 and they work fine. Same part number for K2 and K3 inthe OEM bleeder.
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Re: speedbleeder
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2011, 10:48:39 AM »
The chart is under FAQ ; Brakes
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2011, 10:56:04 AM »
The chart is under FAQ ; Brakes
Funny how much info there is in FAQ, but its just not front of mind to go there. Thanks.
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2011, 08:33:53 AM »
Thanks guys!
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