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Need some rim help...
« on: May 13, 2011, 06:43:50 PM »
Bare with me here...I'm in the learning stages:

Rebuilding a '74 750 and it's to the point where I need to decide what to do about wheels.  Whats on the bike is rusty nasty chrome and actually there seems to be a pretty good size flat spot in the rear rim when free-spinning (hit I curb I suppose?)

I'd like to try and get out of this as cheap as possible and am willing to learn how to lace and true the rim myself.

Now, the front tire reads 3.25 H19 (Continental) and the rear reads MT90-16T (Dunlop).  Seems to be pretty good look for the bike so all I need to figure out now is where to buy the rims and spokes (and make sure they're the rights ones!) 

Suggestions?
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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 07:00:44 PM »
Or maybe the flat spot in the rear rim can be fixed?  How much is too much?
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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 05:49:04 AM »
There are lots of sources for rims and not so many for spokes.  Lacing and truing wheels is not at all difficult, but they may test your patience.

As for your choices there are many.  You could buy a used wheel in good condition for less money that you would have to pay for a set of stainless spokes and nipples (~$125).  If your existing wheel is round and straight it might be re-chromed and certainly can be powder-coated.  Paint is not a good choice for refinishing chromed rims.  You could also buy new rims, either factory replacements or from the aftermarket, both of which can be quite expensive.  There are surprisingly few sources for spokes.  Many on-line sources advertise their availability, but are constantly "out of stock" when you try to place an order.  The only sure source for them that I know of is Bucanons (sp?).

Do a search on lacing and truing and you will find a number of good articles on both subjects and several with step by step instructions and photographs.  Of course you can take lots of photos of your own wheels before you disassemble them, and if you're lucky you might find a stock wheel to have by your side as you re-lace yours.  One way or the other its really pretty easy to do.  Truing is pretty much the same.  There are instructions to be found on line and the work itself is not hard. 

Both lacing and truing do require some tools that you might not have.  First you need some way to hold the wheel.  You can clamp down the axle between two tables of equal height, you can concoct a stand of some sort; personally I use an old aquarium stand that's made out of 2"x4"s.   For lacing you should buy a spoke wrench.  Get one with different sized jaws in various sizes.  For truing you should buy a dial indicator, though you can get away without one and just devise some sort of indicator.  The real thing, the dial indicator (and clamping hardware), can be had for very little money used (E-Bay) and there are lots of them available (out of work machinists).  It is a tool you will use for the rest of your life.


I'd encourage you to do it, rebuild your own.  Its a satisfying thing to have done and of course if you do it and do it right then you'll know it was done right. 

Here's mine:

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2002 FXSTD/I  Softail Deuce
2001 Acura (Honda) CL Type-S
1986 Honda Rebel, 450
1978 Honda CB550K
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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 09:24:36 AM »
Man, thanks for all for info!  I hope I can get mine to turn out as nice as yours Kong.  I might be looking into a new (to me) hub as well--somehow the prior owner managed to lace on the outside of the hub (16" mind you) leaving a ton of spoke "impressions" from what's currently on a prior set of spokes.  I'll try and post a picture tonight.


I did manage to find parts pretty cheap--hopefully they'll all work.

$79.95  -  16"X 3.0" Rim for 40 spoke hubs. Works with 16" spoke conversion kits for 40 spoke sets Like CB750 Choppers.     (down the page some)
http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/chopper.htm

$21.95 - TAS HONDA CB500, CB550, CB750 CHOP 16" Drop SPOKE KIT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TAS-HONDA-CB500-CB550-CB750-CHOP-16-Drop-SPOKE-KIT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27baf8ea3cQQitemZ170640599612QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 06:37:38 PM »
Anyone have a source for a 19" front rim?  Ebay has one for a factory original, but I gotta believe there's a cheaper after market source?


Edit:  Whoops, looks like partspitstop has one for $75 - not bad!
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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 07:13:40 PM »
I believe Bikebandit sells an oem rim for $92, can't imagine you'll find much cheaper.
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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 05:07:11 AM »
I believe Bikebandit sells an oem rim for $92, can't imagine you'll find much cheaper.

Are the front rims interchangeable? Specifically, would a '76 front rim fit a '74?

$75.03 for a '76 front rim:
http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/OemParts#/Honda/CB750K_A_(76)_MOTORCYCLE%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB750-2540001_TO_CB750-2575894/FRONT_WHEEL_%2b_DISC/CB750K-76-JPN-A/2Y133416F13341609A

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Re: Need some rim help...
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 05:09:02 AM »
I believe Bikebandit sells an oem rim for $92, can't imagine you'll find much cheaper.

No idea, I'm a beginner, someone here should know, though.

Are the front rims interchangeable? Specifically, would a '76 front rim fit a '74?

$75.03 for a '76 front rim:
http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/OemParts#/Honda/CB750K_A_(76)_MOTORCYCLE%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB750-2540001_TO_CB750-2575894/FRONT_WHEEL_%2b_DISC/CB750K-76-JPN-A/2Y133416F13341609A

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Need some rim help...
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2011, 06:03:15 AM »
Know beforehand the TAS spokes are fine but there will be plenty of cutting and grinding down the spokes after it is all laced. Price is good though.

I have the CRC/TAS combination on Satin.
I don't have a motorcycle, sold it ('85 Yamaha Venture Royale).  Haven't had a CB750 for over 40 years.

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