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Offline Spades

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Wont Fire .. Help!!
« on: May 17, 2011, 04:53:01 PM »
So I got in my new fuse box from Hondaman and my new regulator/rectifier. Everything plugged up properly except my regulator had 3 wires, green, white, and black and the new one only had to black and white. The bike turns over and sputters as if it wishes to fire but never actually does.

I checked and I have spark in all 4 cylinders. I am also getting fuel to all 4. The bike ran fine last week before things went out. The fuse box went which I am pretty sure is what caused the rectifier to go out as they happened at the same time.

I am out of ideas as to what could be causing it not to fire. It can't be the start stop switch because ATM it is bypassed. (Yes I know the dangers but have no choice atm). I took a couple of pictures to give you guys an idea of the new rectifier / regulator and the extra wire.

Any ideas as to why the bike wont start? Do I need that green wire that was attached to the original regulator?





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Offline Hannibal Smith

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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 05:00:08 PM »
Just looking at the pictures makes my head hurt..................
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 05:01:43 PM »
Just looking at the pictures makes my head hurt..................

I have only had it about two months and it's better than when I got it. I assure you I didn't do that to it.
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 06:45:48 PM »
If no ideas of what to try, someone who has used a modern rectifier/regulator do I need to hook that green wire up to something? If so what?
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2011, 07:08:56 PM »
try green wire to the casing of the r/r. did it come with any directions. have you tried contacting the manufacturer. im thinking the casing may be your answer. did you mess with your timing? if it sputters but wont start thats where i would first look. without the r/r it should stll start but runn off the battery. oh check to make sure your battery is fully charged.
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 01:52:47 AM »
It's unlikely that regulator is related to starting issue.
Is it a good strong blue spark? A week ignition will spark in atmosphere but not under compression.
Is your battery fully charged?
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2011, 03:46:39 AM »
The battery is fully charged but that shouldn't matter as the bike is designed to run no battery off the kick start.
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 04:31:12 AM »
Who designed it that way? Is it a 750K8? Mine doesn't work like that.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2011, 04:58:14 AM »
They come from the factory that way. You have to make a few modifications but it's self contained. Also,  the spark doesn't work off the battery, in theory the charging system charges the coils which causes spark. It also charges the battery at the dame time. Newho, I am going to verify plug gap and check the points today and see if that helps. I am basically down to having spark but not enough me thinks.
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Re: Wont Fire .. Help!!
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 06:22:08 AM »
They come from the factory that way. You have to make a few modifications but it's self contained. Also,  the spark doesn't work off the battery, in theory the charging system charges the coils which causes spark. It also charges the battery at the dame time. Newho, I am going to verify plug gap and check the points today and see if that helps. I am basically down to having spark but not enough me thinks.

Who told you this? It's wrong. The charging system needs juice from the battery in order to create more juice. The battery -- not the charging system -- charges the coils. If you're operating off false assumptions, you should correct them before you start to troubleshoot. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2011, 06:25:23 AM »
They come from the factory that way. You have to make a few modifications but it's self contained. Also,  the spark doesn't work off the battery, in theory the charging system charges the coils which causes spark. It also charges the battery at the dame time. Newho, I am going to verify plug gap and check the points today and see if that helps. I am basically down to having spark but not enough me thinks.

Who told you this? It's wrong. The charging system needs juice from the battery in order to create more juice. The battery -- not the charging system -- charges the coils. If you're operating off false assumptions, you should correct them before you start to troubleshoot.

That is what I was told. Either way, I stated the battery is fully charged so that is still not the issue even if I am wrong about not needing the battery.
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